tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15374623.post5404528310970959884..comments2023-11-02T06:43:49.663-04:00Comments on Watergate Summer: As an RN :The HCR Battle at this Moment,and Where I stand.enigma4everhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06589997090173140019noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15374623.post-79963235488853758612009-12-19T12:35:15.957-05:002009-12-19T12:35:15.957-05:00while i agree with you in so many ways - i think t...while i agree with you in so many ways - i think the damage this bill will do in the end would be worse<br /><br />at any point, the govt could cut all subsidies for the poor - who will be forced to pay for insurance that the greedy evil despicable insurance companies will be selling.Distributorcaphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10149154929149577121noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15374623.post-48372628633821552422009-12-17T21:19:01.890-05:002009-12-17T21:19:01.890-05:00Thanks for putting this together, E. You have giv...Thanks for putting this together, E. You have given food for thought. <br /><br />One part of me inclines toward scrapping it rather than settling for crumbs. Another part of me thinks maybe crumbs can be built into something more substantial. <br /><br />Can the dems get 60 votes even for crumbs? I don't have the answers but after listening to Weiner and Harkin, I am not feeling completely bereft like I was after listening to Dean.D.K. Raedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01451065603615752038noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15374623.post-23174510005039517112009-12-17T07:42:47.129-05:002009-12-17T07:42:47.129-05:00Enigma, Your stats are an eye-opener. As much as ...Enigma, Your stats are an eye-opener. As much as I try to keep up with HCR, I did not realize so many were losing coverage ea day/dying ea yr. I don't think we should give up the HCR fight, that something is better than nothing, and, like on of the commenters said, Medicare took years to morph into its present form. Lieberman caved to the Hartford insurance interests...symptomatic of how we got into HCR trouble/why we need HCR. Too many in Congress don't understand the magnitude of problems Out There. I personally favor the German plan where limitations are placed on for-profit insurance companies...but will be happy with any positive step forward...and it shouldn't be this way, not in the U.S.A. HCR shouldn't be an issue. It should be a progam in place and running smoothly. I've called Congressional offices to support HCR, reminding them that Senator Kennedy would be chiding them for ignoring the larger issue of public good. Sigh! Anyway, thank you for the enormous work you've put into helping us understand the issues. Merry Christmas!Kittie Howardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07756250649095903317noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15374623.post-77770413330281505522009-12-17T07:33:13.874-05:002009-12-17T07:33:13.874-05:00I called all of Reid's offices yesterday and w...I called all of Reid's offices yesterday and was disconnected at each of them. <br /><br />Barak Obama has lied with his inaction towards the legislative branch, And the money I sent and vocal support I gave to his campaign I now see was a waste of time and energy, They are all the same and it is now up to us to take care of us.<br /><br />Take care of yourself E...no one in government will.the walking manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10058913927297370740noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15374623.post-37532626347078158512009-12-16T11:55:03.343-05:002009-12-16T11:55:03.343-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.enigma4everhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06589997090173140019noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15374623.post-46683437508303271082009-12-16T11:55:01.839-05:002009-12-16T11:55:01.839-05:00Yes Biscuit::
don't jump ship in a storm, that...Yes Biscuit::<br />don't jump ship in a storm, that actually rings very true..thanks for coming by...<br /><br />Maui::<br />I dont know what will happen in the end to Medicare Expansion or PO-at this point it does not look good-unless House can get it to be brought in....<br /><br />and yes, what the final version is we don't know....<br /><br />we shall just have to see....enigma4everhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06589997090173140019noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15374623.post-73973391313795847012009-12-16T11:24:19.231-05:002009-12-16T11:24:19.231-05:00Enigma, I agree. We should not "kill the bil...Enigma, I agree. We should not "kill the bill." I am very disappointed that apparently the buy-in to Medicare for people over 55 and the public option are both apparently off the table thanks to liebermann et al. But if there are any reforms and anything worth saving in this bill that will help the many uninsured people out there in any way, then I am still in favor of it.<br /><br />The best is the enemy of the good.<br /><br />Do we really want to have no change at all? Or will incremental change be better than nothing? When Medicare was first passed it was not in full-fledged form as it is now. Changes were made over time. That can happen here too.<br /><br />And we have to remember, the final bill will need to be agreed upon between the House and Senate, and could be different from either of the independent legislation from each house.Mauigirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15529827915262851910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15374623.post-34295459249870889772009-12-16T10:45:46.221-05:002009-12-16T10:45:46.221-05:00I'm with you. Reader's Digest version: I...I'm with you. Reader's Digest version: I'm so desperate for access to health care, I'll take anything I can get, even if it sucks royally. And I don't jump ship during a storm.YesBiscuit!https://www.blogger.com/profile/13827466504671715047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15374623.post-79834064414939576172009-12-16T08:11:21.003-05:002009-12-16T08:11:21.003-05:00I still have not been getting any emails from HCR ...I still have not been getting any emails from HCR groups and our Elected in DC, including Obama&WH, for about 2.5 weeks the silence has been deafening.<br /><br />This to me says that they don't know what to say about the HCR as it is right now, but it also shows me support is flagging/weak or damaged.<br /><br />If anyone gets emails from DC about HCR let me know.<br /><br />I realize that I will now get more wrath from the Progressives about this post telling me I am not progressive enough...<br /><br />but I stand by it as of now 12,16....enigma4everhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06589997090173140019noreply@blogger.com