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A Note from Enigma:
I just wanted to say Thank You to all of the Voters in Texas,Rhode Island,Vermont, and my adopted state of Ohio. I have lived all over this Country, but Ohio is a special place of hardworking goodhearted people. I have met many wonderful people here, and many that have suffered under this Current Regime, from Lost Jobs, Foreclosed Homes, to Abandoned VETS, to UnInsured to UnderInsured, Ohio has vast damage. In this past month I have met Amazing People, some brought here by the Obama Team,some my remarkable neighbors from the Cleveland area. I just wanted to say Thank You for Everything, I will blog more about the Campaign part after tonight, there is alot to be said for pounding on doors and standing in lines that can feed a soul.And to Barack and Michelle Obama, there are no words for the gratitude and hope that you gave my son and me.....and my neighbors.
*{and to Blogatopia, thank you for your patience and kind support while this battle consumed me.Results will be liveblogged in the Comments....and Click the Title for Some Fine Music, Dixie Chicks Singing Live to JT "Shower the People". I also wanted to let readers know here that I will be bloggin more extensively again on other issues again from Strife in South America to Pakistan to Life Events....Thank you....}*
**** UPDATED AS OF 3AM.WHILE I STILL TRACK NUMBERS, SOMETHING IS WRONG IN OHIO WITH THE NUMBERS, I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS RELATED TO THE SCANNERS, THE WEATHER, OR ABSENTEE BALLOTS AND EARLY VOTERS NOT BEING COUNTED, BUT SOMETHING IS WRONG, AS OF 3AM THE STATE'S OWN SITE DOES NOT HAVE NUMBERS FOR SOME OF THE MAIN CRUCIAL COUNTIES- MATTER OF FACT IT IS LISTING THEM AS ZERO VOTER TURNOUT, MY COUNTY IS ONE OF THEM, CUYAHOGA. ALSO APPEARING INACCURATE ON THE STATE WEBSITE FRANKLIN, STARK, DARKE, CLERMONT,LAKE, LUCAS, AND FAIRFIELD. THESE SEVEN COUNTIES HAVE OVER 2.5 MILLON REGISTERED VOTERS. I WENT TO TRY TO CHECK MY COUNTY AND I COULD ONLY FIND ON THE STATE WEBSITE THAT LESS THAN WEBSITE 100,000 HAD BEEN CAST FOR DEMS ( 66,000 FOR OBAMA, AND HILL 40,000). YET ON ANOTHER PAGE, THE VOTER TURNOUT PAGE READS ZERO FOR MY COUNTY AS OF 3AM. CUYAHOGA COUNTY HAS 974,033 Registered Voters, so I knew that this Number was Wrong.)IF YOU LIVE IN ANY OF THE COUNTIES I NAMED OR BIG CITIES, CINCINATTI, TOLEDO, DAYTON, OR COLUMBUS OR LIVE IN LAKESIDE COUNTIES PLEASE TRY TO SEE IF YOU CAN LOCATE YOUR VOTE, I DID CONTACT THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN, AND IF YOU LIVE IN SANDUSKY, OR CUYAHOGA OR LAKE COUNTIES WHERE WE WERE TOLD THAT BALLOTS RAN OUT ( AS WAS SAID ON THE NEWS- PLEASE DO ALSO REPORT YOUR VOTE TO OBAMA'S VOTER CENTER ON THE WEBSITE.)IF YOU HAD ANY PROBLEMS PLEASE DO REPORT TO THEIR VOTER CENTER, ESP IN OHIO. ( AND MAYBE EVEN TEXAS).
116 comments:
ObamaMama, I know you've been working your butt off and admire your dedication. I hope you get some much deserved rest.
Thank You ObamaMama! I know Hillary is expected to take Ohio by 5 or so points but I am still hoping not. It certainly will not be because of you my dear.
Your efforts are much appreciated. The best part of your efforts to me Is the positive influence you have had on 6.6. Rest while you can Hon!
The hoopla should all be over soon and we can all get back to something more fun. I am pretty fed up with politics for now and just want to get through the rest of the year without Shrub screwing up even worse. As long as we get someone in the WH that thinks and exhibits a shred or two of human decency I will be pretty happy.
Tom Brokaw cites a source "very close to the Obama campaign" who says there are an additional 50 Superdelegates are "ready to go public before too long."
Even if Hillary Clinton wins all 4 states today (she has a better chance of being struck by lightening) she will gains only 20 or so delegates.
Barack Obama has a 100+ delegate lead. Add the 50 Superdelegates Brokaw references and it would effectively nullify her win, making it virtually impossible for Clinton to catch Obama.
Christopher:
You always find good news...thank you.....( so funny three people emailed me this too all at the same time....) how did you all know I was looking for that Silver lining....
Fallenmonk:
I agree....and yes as long as SOME Humanity could be found after all this- I would be grateful.....very...
Jim:
thank you...I know that many have given so much here....truly wonderful people....worked so hard...
Tomcat:
thank you.....many have worked much harder than me....if I hadn't smashed my hip I could have stomped alot more and worked more....but I did what could....I wish it was more...
( ouch - I posted my photo and my google numbers dived....wow.....I wonder if I should take that personal...)
3PM News:
Some Counties ( Southern Part of State) have had to close polls due to Electrical Issues and also power issues, flooding and the night was full of SNAIL and frozen rain, and some ice and high winds here by the Lake, the concern is that the Storm from the South will collide /cluster with Lake Effect Snow......we will have to see......29 degrees- if it goes lower this will make the Ice issue a bigger concern.....I am susposed to go check on the lines at 7:30Pm...but If it is too icey , due to my damaged hip, I won't go....wait and see...
One Polling place had to close due to Bomb threats....it was only temporary and reopend after checks ....
I voted Friday in Early Voting at the Election Center- it was packed with huge lines ....there were also Repugs there voting - proudly for Obama..
Oh I hope, I hope Tom Brokaw had good info! I am watching and waiting, too. I think the early voters will have a big impact on OH results because of the weather today.
Now, I know about rain & snow & ice, but Enigma, what is "SNAIL"? After my many years in southern calif, all I can think of is millions of slimy creepy-crawlies clogging up the roads & making slogging to polls difficult due to their crunchy little shells underfoot. Hope that made you laugh!
(ps, nice to see your photo again! all that greenery is probably pretty white about now.)
DK:
Ohhhh that was pretty funny....SNAIL is HAIL and SNOW mixed together....so it looks like Snow- but is noisy and it it HURTS when it hits ( ie like walking the dog one finds themself cussing out the Noisy Snow....)...I like your image better....too funny....
I am a nervous wreck..I still have more cleaning to do...at 7:30 I am going over to the polls to encourage the Line and also to take photos....( provided there is not too much ice...) There is a Big Watch party downtown tonight....but I don't know if 6-6 and I will go....we are both too nervous to be at a party though..( and I would not be able to Blog the results...I called and asked about Wifi...you knew I would ;-)
I am nervous about the results, and imagine that they will still be un-called when we go to bed tonight (unless it isn't close).
Here's a link for you. Molly Ivins' column from January 2006 called "I will not support Hillary Clinton for president." I wish Molly was here today.
Hang in there Blueberry...
We are rooting for you....
I so Miss Molly...wow...she has really been on my mind...and speaking of great Southern Women ( I am sorry but I don't think Ann Richards would support Hill....I just don't see it....)
Thank you for sharing Molly....
5pm...
Soooo Tweetty came on...but instead 6-6 I watched a Car Chase from LA, on CNN.......much more interesting...
I just got back form the gym, but I know the reason my heart rate is up has nothing to do with my workout.
It is time to do some tantric breathing.
Gryphen:
WOW....Hang in there friend...we will all ride this out together...
7:02 PM.....
First Update of the Night....
Vermont just closed, and the Exit Polls perdict him to win by 60 to 40 ish..( per Keith just now).....So NOOOOOW we are 27 to 11....( and 12th win..) Woooooohooooo....( I lived there many many years ago...and even Voted for Bernie Sanders for Mayor,....I knew they would come through for Obama)
Now the bad news .....the Storm here is worse, icey hail and winds...now I am not walking up to the school....too dangerous for me with my wounded hip....sorry..that makes me a whimp.....
Anyways Lights have dimmed twice, and I have computer and phone charged and frigging candles ready.....
Barack Obama, an African American man, wins Vermont? How is this not perceived as absolutely amazing?
Obama is winning these lily white states one after the other.
Alright Vermont! That isn't being a wimp enigma it is called good sense.
well....Vermont is a very cool state, and VERY Anti -War, but Nora is right it is very white middle america and very rural...also alot of college educated ( IBM HQ used to be there, so think early geeks).........I lived there as a PEDS nurse very long time ago----- we are obviously talking dark ages....anyways....Polls close in 10 minutes....here in Ohio....So on MSNBC Russert keeps talking about How Obama NEEDS to get the "White Ethnic Women Vote over 40"....WHAT ????that makes NO sense....
Here is what keeps coming to my mind...WHAT if , and it is a BIG IF...what if Vermont is representitive of MORE and MORE Different Demographics voting for Obama....more white men, more women over 25 and 40...and more blue collar and rural...doesn't that in the End leave Hill with the hard of hearing over 70 ?????
WOW! Have you been busy! I admire your dedication. How is your hip? Since Edwards abdicated, I just haven't been able to fire myself up, although I'm sure once we hit the trail against the Republi-cons, I'll be up and ready for the fight.
Take a little time off and rest the hip. No point in taking yourself out of the game for want of a brief respite.
Saw your post at Fixer & Gordon. What did you decide on for 6-8? lol!
d.
Ohio is still too close to call.
Why is Ohio harshing my mellow?
Patriot:
thanks...ooooops...we bumped into each other...
Tweety is babbbling something...not making any sense....Ohio Polls just closed ( actually they are still open to the People in line)....Within 29 Seconds they declared McCain the winner for Ohio....
Okay now Tweety and Keith are talkiing about how Penn would bog the campaign....and hurt things...Dah......pretty smart- thank you Keith...we have been saying that for weeks...
oooooops I had trouble getting my comment to post and you all beat me here..
Gryphen : I am so sorry....if I could give it to you I would you know that....
Deud: Lordy, wonderful to see you I came by your place earlier..was going to comment- but our lights were flickering so I went offline- so I will be back later....for sure- I have missed you....About the Hip...weill, it looks like a really ugly HUGE tattoo , but I can walk on it- so I could go stomping last week.....but it will take some time....gees what a reality check about age- oye.....NOW....about the Car for 6-6- thank you I completely forgot to go back and see what they came up with him for vehicle......Poor guy- his knees are in the dashboard....So I can't even teach him how to drive right now...bummer....Hang here tonight if you want- I am hanging here instead of going to the Obama party....I would rather be online and Blog ( and yes I told HQ that and they laughed ;-)
7:52 PM:
we have about 2 inches of slushy ice snow snail mix on ground...totallly lethal...ouch...
meanwhile Tweety is interviewing Blackwell about Ohio....there is a painful issue- the most hated man in Ohio...handed Ohio to Bush.....grrrrrrr...he just called Obama and Hill Tweedle Dee vs Tweedle Dum....Asswipe....
KEITH just said Ohio Cuyahoga and Sandusky counties requested a TWO-HOUR extention ... to keep the polls open 2 more hours because they RAN OUT OF BALLOTS!!!! I think this is good news, don't you?
Hillary is ahead in Ohio so far with a little over 500 votes.
8PM BREAKING NEWS.....OBAMA CAMPAIGN HAS JUST REQUESTED THAT CUYAHOGA FRANKLIN COUNTIES STAY OPEN LATE....AN EXTRA HOUR..... HAVE JUST HAD TO REQUEST THAT THERE BE MORE BALLOTS SENT.....I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THAT MEANS---IT DOES MEAN THAT MORE AND MORE REPUGS ARE VOTING DEM???? ( THAT IS WHAT I THINK) ...SANDUSKY POLLS IS ALSO STAYING OPEN AS A COUNTY LATE- UNTIL 9PM..THE OTHER POLLS ALSO MIGHT STAY OPEN LATE IN THOSE OTHER TWO COUNTIES DUE TO WEATHER...WHICH IS BEYOND SHIT RIGHT NOW...
( DK YES, EXCELLENT NEWS)
okay so to Summarize Cuyahoga - Cleveland..... MY COUNTY- WHERE I DID INDEED VOTE EARLY...AND ALSO FRANKLIN ARE REQUESTING TO BE OPEN LATE- AND THEY WILL AND SHOULD GET IT BRUNNER THE SEC IS REASONABLE AND THEY RAN OUT OF DEM BALLOTS- NOW FOLKS THAT MEANS THAT THOSE REPUGS THAT SAID THEY ARE VOTING FOR OBAMA ( I HAVE MET MANY..) ARE INDEED VOTING FOR HIM..THAT IS WHAT I THINK..I AM STAYING OPTIMISTIC...( MY CAPS ARE STUCK- I HAVE NO IDEA WHY...SORRY).....
SANDUSKY IS A VERY MUCH WORKING CLASS AREA- VERY SPLIT ABOUT O AND H....BUT is also open late due to crap weather....( fixed the caps thing..)
TX: Obama 58%; Blinton 41%
Less than 1% counted (about 65K votes) ... "Blinton" was a typo, but I like it!
8:16PM////
OMG....WAIT I JUST HAD AN EPHIPHANY.....THE WEATHER HERE IS TOTAL CRAP NOW- SO BRUNNER SHOULD GRANT THE EXTENSION..BUT THE SCHOOL IS RIGHT NEAR ME I AM GOING TO WALK THE DOG AND TAKE A PEEAK..HERE ;S THE THING- THERE MUST BE BIG LINES....AND THE RULE IS IF PEOPLE ARE IN LINE THEY MUST BE GIVEN A BALLOT...SO I AM HEADING OVER TO TAKE A PEAK...I WILL REPORT WHEN I GET BACK.......WISH ME LUCK...
Stupid CNN has 0% of the Ohio Vote counted, yet declaring 62% Ckinton, 36% Obama.
So clearly we are getting exit poll results.
Pffffttttt
I predict it is going to be a long night!
Obama is ahead in Texas!
Yes! Early Texas result show
54% Obama
45% Clinton
Woo Hoo!!
Funny- with 0% still counted in Ohio- they have change the percentage rate....
60% Clinton
38% Obama
Thank You Vermont!!!!
9PM :
Hey Fran can you try to live stream MSNBC- Scrooooo CNN...they are worthless....
So here is the update in Franklin, Sandusky and Cuyahoga Counties - 15 Precincts are staying open late due to ballot Shortage and Foul Weather...So I walked to the school near me- People were still in line until 8:45 PM and also the Poll was still manned due to the weather......( by the way the weather beyond sucks....like a Giant Skating Rink with a slurpy poured on top....some limbs down due to Frozen ice......Really Hellish...So I am glad that Brunner is doing the right thing....
The Thing about the Ballots running out is so shocking- because alot of people already voted....
Okay NOW to the Numbers..
TEXAS:
8:50PM 1% Counted
489,023 ...56%....Obama
374,383....43%...Blinton ( is that right DK?)
9PM
Still only 2% counted
520,089 Obama 56%
431,622 Hill.......34%
Still Too Close to Call in Ohio...RI and yes, Texas........
Ohio: 2% counted
58% Clinton
40% Obama
The count is young!
Rhode Island: 2% counted
52% Clinton
47% Obama
msnbc does not even have RI #'2 posted, but has a headline Clinton won RI ??? WTF?
13% of RI votes counted- how can MSNBC call it a clinton win
53% Clinton
46% Obama
13% !!!
The predictions are flying- 13% counted.
Mathematically, you'd have to have counted 50% of the vote before you could declare a winner in an election, right?
I hope they have to eat their words & reverse their prediction.
They just flipped it back to 9% votes counted & only 7 percentage points between Clintoon & Obama.
But they have the headline banner & the red checkmark by Hillary's name.
Crazymaking, if ya ask me.
The Huckster~ Huckabee is saying adios.
enigma...
Looks like the fear card played well for Clinton in Ohio.
Scared the crap out of the soccer moms it looks like.
Anyway Clinton's camp said there going all the way to the convention. If that's the case than we may have a destroyed party come November.
Her refusal to drop out will damage the party as I don't see Obama's new supporters coming out to vote for her in the General.
We can only wait and see I guess.
Take care of your hip and ...
God Bless.
9:30Pm Numbers:
Texas:
( Only 4% counted)
Obama.....539,210.........53%
Hill...........460,089.........46%
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RI: Polls closed 9pm and only 11% counted
Hill: 148,936.....60%......
Obama.......98,278......38%
242,214 votes counted..
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Ohio Polls some were open til 9pm due to weather and Ballot shortage, so I need to go get more numbers on Ohio....
Hold that- I think the RI numbers that I posted are really Ohio...let me check that ( I use the numbers from C&L)
9:40PM
Ohio 17% Counted- but that is not right....polls just closed at some very very key precincts...
Obama......149,816.......40% ( believe me- it will be closer than this)
Hill.............219,914.......53%
total so far 369,730
RI:
( which I had wrong above)
12% counted, and polls closed at 9pm
9,110 ...Hill 52%
8,170....Obama..47%
NOW ......This is another state that had early voting and also needed more ballots for DEMS....so let's see.....what happens...
AnonP;
The MAIN areas just finished voting at 9pm....it is MUCH closer than the early numbers that are being shown..Please watch MSNBC- I don't trust CNN as far as I can throw them..due to Ballot Shortages and Horrendous weather - some KEY polling spots just closed at 9pm.... Obama was very very organized here and very supported....So hold on to your hat- because it is going to be neck and neck here...don't call it a night yet- at all....and also there are alot of repugs voting for Obama here....that HATE Bush ( and also don't like Hill)....BTW here the women and men all laughed at her damn ad...if she has High numbers here- believe me- people will be crying FOUL.....
Who would you prefer to have answer a White House crisis phone call at 3 a.m.?
Hillary Clinton 25% 126812
Mike Huckabee 6% 29369
John McCain 30% 155468
Barack Obama 39% 201644
Total Votes: 513293
A Poll on CNN
9:40Pm
Texas
999,299 Counted
Obama.......539,210 ...53%
Hill.............460,089.....46%
( and I don't think this counts Caucus results ?)BTW the estimate is that atleast 3 Million Voted DEM there...
Fran if you watch CNN and I watch MSNBC - we can compare the results?
( and I am still using C&L numbers..)
10PM
Texas: 8% Counted
Total Counted:
1,184,515
Obama.......611,612......51%
Hill.............572,903.....48%
( shit that is too close...what happened???)
Ohio:
( I am really worried these numbers do NOT look right...)
Total , and they are SAYING 21% Counted,443,497
Hill: 267,646.....59%
Obama:175,851....39%
THERE IS NO WAY SHE HAS A 20 POINT LEAD HERE...THEY MUST NOT HAVE STARTED TO COUNT SANDUSKY OR CUYAHOGA OR LORRAIN OR FRANKLIN......
Some old man standing next to a prostitute is talking to a group of screaming fools.
Oh wait, I think that is McCain.
How can a man in his seventies still have such a hard on to fight everybody? That is a fairly immature attitude for a fossil to have.
Gryphen: thanks...very funny....I am worried...very....She is catching up in Texas and also in Ohio the numbers don't look right...The Numbers in Ohio SOMETHING is Wrong....she never ever had a 20 Point lead here....( I smell NH stink here ...)
I will look for more numbers....
enigma...
Think Diebold!
God Bless.
Enigma,
Don't worry.
Ohio was always the Borg Queen's to lose.
Now, Texas. Because of the way the districts are laid out, Obama and the Borg Queen can tie and Obama will get more delegates.
We'll see, I suppose.
But this much I know: as many as 20% of Democrats have said they will not vote for the Borg Queen under any circumstances. That's a huge percentage. Even among Dems, there won't be a kumbaya moment.
If by some oddity of events she wins the nomination, she will never become president. Get used to saying "President McCain." This will be her legacy to the Democratic party.
That is EXACTLY what I thought Enigma. There is NO WAY she has a 20 point lead on Obama.
And her campaign is accusing Obama of dirty tricks. Can you believe that shit?
Where is the media on this?
10:17 Numbers:
Ohio:
(susposedly 35% counted- but not the KEY Counties, Example MY Cuyahoga County will not be in until 4:30am....and that is a HUGE humber, Hamiloton, Daton, and Toledo counties, and the Cinncinatti Counties NONE of these will be counted until later.....Obama is winning Columbus, Franklin County/////Rural is reporting first)
Obama: 313,349.....41%...
Hill.......434,398.....57%
747,747 Counted
Texas:
15% Counted, 1,296,843
Obama...660,021......50%
Hill.........636,822.......48%
( all early vote is in, HOUSTON, Harris county is not in yet...)
RI:
49% Counted, 79,226 counted
Obama.....30,177.......61%
Hill...........48,682........38%
Thanks all...I am just worried....AnonP- the NEW Sec, got Brunner- got rid of them - the DIEBOLD...she did bring in NEW Scanner- which makes me nervous because this is the FIRST time using them,......But I know what I have been seeing here in this county....
Venezuela has a system, with an online vote, a written printout and a blue thumb.
I have at my blog a post on Obama, I expect you'll disagree with.
RI 73% COUNTED
CLINTOON 59%
OBAMA 40%
TX (PRIMARY ONLY, NOT CAUCUS) 19% COUNTED
49% FOR BOTH CANDIDATES!!!!!!
OH 45% COUNTED
CLINTOON 56%
OBAMA 42%
PBS WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT THE BLACK VOTE AREAS OF OHIO & COUNTIES YOU MENTIONED HAVE NOT YET BEEN COUNTED.
10:30Pm Update:
The Counties I mentioned are also Working Middle Class- too.....over by Toledo and all the BIG City Votes are NOT Counted yet....
Raw Numbers ( C&L)
Ohio ( they say 46% Counted- but there is no way that is right)
975,044
Obama......414,870....42%
Hill............560,174....56%
Texas:
( 20% Counted......1,380,112 counted)
Obama......694,404...49%
Hill............685,708....49%
( Dead Heat)
Renegade:
I have not been over yet...we can disagree- you know that...Hey when is the Reciepe Post coming....I am Hungry......Well, now you have me intrigued with Veneuzula...but I do worry how do people without Computers vote online...
I have now joined Christoper in deciding that if Hillary is the nominee I will not vote in the November election.
If you want to know why simply read my last post. It will make you sick to your stomach.
SHIT!
THEY JUST FLIPPED CLINTON AHEAD IN TX, BUT THEY STILL REMAIN 49% EACH.
I don't get TX. They show the primary votes counted so far, but ZERO for caucus votes?
And TX always goes repub in the general, but here in the primary, 700K more dems have voted than repubs (counted so far).
It all comes down to the delegates.
I don't see the math having Hillary Clinton reaching 2,025. Like I said, anything can happen.
But if she's the nominee, I simply can't bring myself to vote for her. I can wait for 2012 and Al Gore.
Gryphen I am with you....I won't either- and WE ALL NEED TO SAY IT LOUD AND CLEAR AND TELL TEH OBAMA CAMPAIGN....
WTF >>>>>??? ALL STATIONS ARE SAYING HILL IS THE WINNER WITH NO BIG OHIO CITIES OR MY COUNTY ( CLEVELAND EVEN COUNTED).....WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON HERE???????
I am going to watch LOCAL news....NONE of the Local BIG Cities have been counted..NONE..and NOE of my county....
I am watching local news- apparently there are problems in Cuyahoga...
Enigma -- How can this be happening? Can Obama still win the delegates in Ohio and Texas?
This is bizarre. Today on our radio show we played Hill's comment about herself and McCain having more experience. When she put Obama down, lower than McCain, that was the end.
Obama still has more delegates and super-delegates.
enigma...
Whats the story with the Ohio counties that haven't been reported yet?
How can they call it for Hillary if those counties are favor Obama and should give him the majority of the vote?
Something is not right here. It really smells bad.
God Bless.
Enigma - you are GORGEOUS! I love your photo, and love your red hair.
Obama stil has to have more super delegates and delegates.
ooopps I meant Christopher..I am with you...I hear you loud and clear....I don't know what is going on- we were told that on the 11PM news they would tell us about Problems at the Cuyahoga Polls- and shit Hill is speaking...I am furious..NOW I can not even find out WHAT the Problems are- so I reported everything to the Voter Center at Obama's site- and I encourage others too....and I am one of the Precincts and one in Cuyahoga that did not and has not been counted- and it is a huge number- Cuyhoga has ONE MILLION REGISTERED DEMS, THIS DOES NOT COUNT REPUGS CROSSING OVER...AND THAT A BUNCH OF COUNTIE AND PRECINCTS RAN OUT OF BALLOTS AND HAD TO STAY OPEN TO UNTIL 9 PM.)
Ohio Numbers:
11:15 PM
cough (63% susposedly counted- WITHOUT BIG CITIES AND WITHOUT MY DAMN COUNTY AND ALL OF CLEVELAND, THE COUNTY THAT RAN OUT OF BALLOTS).
1,335,997 COUNTED.
OBAMA......563,978....41%
HILL..........772,019....57%
( She did go into this with that kind of lead)
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Texas:
( without Caucus results still)
40% Counted:
Obama.......817,833
Hill.............834,861
Total Counted 1,652,694 ( this suposedly does not COUNT....Houston or Dallas...)
So here is MY DUMB Question so are BIG CITY Votes and Urban Votes BEING CAGED...ALL OF THEM....IS THAT WHAT ALSO HAPPENED IN NY, ( IE HARLEM????)
hmmmm, I just went to CNN and they have not declared her the winner of Ohio...well aint that something....
They are saying Tex and Ohio too close too call ......
I am watching her acceptance speech, and fighting back my gag reflex.
Somebody has prompted these morons to start chanting "Yes she will" because this campaign is just a patchwork of stolen ideas from superior candidates.
I had to hit the mute button because my nausea was becoming too much to handle.
Something happened tonight. Something that should not have happened . I have very little doubt that we were robbed.
I will be visiting the BradBlog often. We HAVE to stop her from stealing this nomination.
We were just trying to figure out Texas-- they are in Central time & the tiny western corner (El Paso) is in Mountain time.... so the caucus just ended at 9pm, probably had to wait for 9pm mountain time?? 1/2 hour ago.
What are they doing-- hand counting in TX?
Still the 50-48% split in Texas is really darned close.
Seems like something went wrong in Ohio.
Delegates
Obama 1411
Clinton 1324
Need 2025 to win
enigma...
I just checked CNN and they are calling it for Hillary with 72% of the vote in.
God Bless.
I've been grinding my teeth all eve. Have to wear the mouth guard tonight. I'm not listening to her win-win speech. The crowd sounds similar to McCain's rah-rah-Saddam Hussein speech (really, that got him the hugest applause). I won't believe the Cleveland results, in fact all those counties lining Lake Erie, until the totals are analyzed.
When do we get to know how the TX caucus cauced, tonight, tommorrow, who knows? I think that determines the delegate spread.
Okay...More Numbers:
11:57 Pm
75% Counted, 1,617,060
Obama.....697,127...42%
Hill...........919,936 ...56%
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MN Numbers
Obama........714,113......42%
Hill..............941,373......56%
1,657.486 Counted( susposedly, I have NO idea if BIG Cities and Cuyhoga County and Cleveland have been counted at all.. or Toledo,Columbus or Cinncinati, or Dayton, or .....there are ONE MILLION registered DEMS in Cuyhoga County- it is HUGE....and they did not close the Polls until 9pm due to the Weather and also because at a BUNCH of Precincts- in MY County alone - 15- ran out of Ballots.
Also the area over by Toledo and Sandusky stayed open late due to weather. Franklin and Cuyhoga also stayed open late- and both had
I voted Early at the Election Center- I have NO idea if it got counted- I was given an Absentee Ballot....I voted last Friday- I wrote my Ballot number down and I encouraged everyone around me to do the same...) There were Many Obama people there and also many Repugs in line to vote for Obama.
I can only say this- I WANT ANSWERS I WANT TO SEE ALL THE NUMBERS.....ALL.....WE ARE MUCH LIKE WISCONSIN , I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT IS HAPPENING..SOMETHING IS WRONG THOUGH....and I intend to ask Questions..and I did file reports at the Obama Voter Center.
I Suffered Cage Voting in 2000 and possible 2004.
I was part of the ACLU/Human Rights Watch Investigation of the 2000 Vote.....my WHOLE Neighborhood was eliminated in that election year...so I take this VERY seriously.... It is Sacred to me.....
what the hell happened in ohio? very disheartening.
Texas:
12:30AM.....66% Counted.....2,189,274
Obama.........1,067,949.......48%
Hill................1,121,325.....50%
OHIO:
81% Counted, 1,745,199 Counted ( Susposedly)
992,806........Hill
752,393......Obama
TO ANSWER ANYONE'S QUESTION.....ABOUT WHAT IS WRONG IN OHIO SOMETHING IS VERY VERY WRONG....AND I HAVE NO IDEA- BUT I PLAN TO ASK QUESTIONS SOMEHOW AND SOME WAY..BECAUSE THERE IS NO REASON FOR THIS HUGE LEAD....THEY WENT INTO THIS RACE IN A DEAD HEAT....
MSNBC :
12 % difference counted...
55% Hill....
43 % Obama......
OK well the GOOD NEWS is the TX Caucus #'s are coming in 5% counted
Obama 56%
Clinton 44%
TX primary 69% counted
Clinton 50%
Obama 48%
Texas is squeaky tight!
enigma...
MSNBC just called Texas for Hillary.
What gives?
God Bless.
12:42 Am
Raw Numbers...Ohio
1,841,620 Counted..
Obama ....804,080.....43%
Hill......1,037,540......55%
( againg Folks I have no idea WHERE the Cuyahoga Results are....)
MSNBC is projecting Hill to win Texas- even though Houstin and Dallas are not counted and the Caucus results are not in....she is ahead by 2.5 % and only 70% counted..
enigma...
Good night.
God Bless.
To Everyone Who Came tonight,
And Kept me Company..and shared in this night....
AnonP, Lydia, Gryphen, DK, Fran, and Annie, Renegade,Christopher, tomcat.....
You All are THE BEST....and wonderful....
I will be honest...I am taking a Deep Breath and Thinking hard.....Ohio....is a mess...and not done yet- I think the Morning Numbers may be very very different...I also think that Texas is NOT a Done deal yet and Obama might still win the Delegates...
I also think that as of right now- they are finally counting the Big Cities and my County Cuyhoga....as of right now- 24% of MY county....Cleveland- 1 Million Registered DEMS...so this is not accurate yet...I am worried about HOW the Cities are Counted LAST each time...there is soemthing wrong with that....
I will stay up for awhile and try to sort this out....and look for some other numbers.....
He gave a beautiful Speech tonight- and it had some new parts in it about HOW we all Speak and About Each Other...it is very special...please check it out- it should be posted on his website...
I won't lie...I am very worried Something very Dirty happened here .....I don't know if we have all the Texas results yet either...But I Do know that Ohio needs HUGE scrutiny....huge...
oooopppps An Apology:
I need to thank Patriot, Maui and also Monk....thank you .......
Well, thanks for having us = )
I have to hit the shower & call it a day-- I figure Texas is not yet a done deal, and Ohio needs serious review.
WE will see what the morning brings.
Thanks for all your hard work. This primary process is NOT over yet.
So hang in there.
Hi all, I know you're all asleep now but just thought I'd mention, I don't know for sure if there was something dirty about the election itself. What is dirty is how the NAFTA Canadian memo thing got publicized and hurt Obama. I think that was the cause of the surge Hillary started to have right before the primary (along with her nasty TV ad) and led to his defeat in Ohio and perhaps in Texas too. But delegatewise he should still be OK.
I think the problem was he didn't get a chance to come back from the NAFTA thing before the voting started. Another issue is I think the press got on him more than they did before and gave Hillary less negative coverage than before. But he has plenty of time to regroup and win the next contests. Keep the faith!
Maui:
Hey there friend....I am still up..I was a bit wound...I needed to eat some Ben and Jerry;s and watch the Food Network and unwind.... or try to ;-)
About Ohio and My County and Cleveland- and the Big Cities- I am still posting the data....and I don't really understand WHAT happened- it was dead even going into the polls...But the Campaign and us Voters will have to ask that all of that be examined...esp before Novemeber...
Now about what you said....all veyr true ALL dirty games were thrown at Ohio from Muslim to Nafta mess....
Fran:
Thanks for all of your number crunching too....get some sleep...
We will see what happens next....( Miss and Wyoming)
enigma4ever said...
Texas:
12:30AM.....66% Counted.....2,189,274
Obama.........1,067,949.......48%
Hill................1,121,325.....50%
OHIO:
81% Counted, 1,745,199 Counted ( Susposedly)
992,806........Hill
752,393......Obama
TO ANSWER ANYONE'S QUESTION.....ABOUT WHAT IS WRONG IN OHIO SOMETHING IS VERY VERY WRONG....AND I HAVE NO IDEA- BUT I PLAN TO ASK QUESTIONS SOMEHOW AND SOME WAY..BECAUSE THERE IS NO REASON FOR THIS HUGE LEAD....THEY WENT INTO THIS RACE IN A DEAD HEAT...."
I'll tell you whats wrong the repugs ALL voted for Clinton thats cwhat happened at my precinct the democrat to repug turnout was 30 to 1..........thats insane, the only way to explain that is the repugs all voted for Clinton i've never heard of turnout being more than 2 to 1.
enigma4ever said...
Texas:
12:30AM.....66% Counted.....2,189,274
Obama.........1,067,949.......48%
Hill................1,121,325.....50%
OHIO:
81% Counted, 1,745,199 Counted ( Susposedly)
992,806........Hill
752,393......Obama
TO ANSWER ANYONE'S QUESTION.....ABOUT WHAT IS WRONG IN OHIO SOMETHING IS VERY VERY WRONG....AND I HAVE NO IDEA- BUT I PLAN TO ASK QUESTIONS SOMEHOW AND SOME WAY..BECAUSE THERE IS NO REASON FOR THIS HUGE LEAD....THEY WENT INTO THIS RACE IN A DEAD HEAT...."
I'll tell you whats wrong the repugs ALL voted for Clinton thats cwhat happened at my precinct the democrat to repug turnout was 30 to 1..........thats insane, the only way to explain that is the repugs all voted for Clinton i've never heard of turnout being more than 2 to 1.
Mike said...
LydiaCornell said...
Mike did you caucus in Texas? What is going on there?
Can Obama still win the delegates?"
MAYHEM.............I just got back from the caucus.... but yes Obama can still win more delegates even if he loses the popular vote.
It looks like the repugs handed Clinton the popular vote in Texas, i;m very interested in hearing the percentage of repugs that voted for Clinton because the democratic to repug turnout was like 30 to 1............there were 300 people in line waiting to vote when someone asked who was voting in the repug primary and ONLY 10 people came forward..........that clearly tells me there were LOTS of repugs voting for Clinton to cause mischief in our primary...........in most other state primaries the dem to repug turnout has been like 2 to 1.........i dont know what is was for all of Texas but it was 30 to 1 at my precinct and that is crazy it stinks and doesnt smell right at all.
During the caucus Clinton supporters outnumbered Obama supporters 3 to 1...........whats amazing is i could actually tell if people were repugs or Clinton supporters just by looking at them............Clinton's supporters were all old and/or uneducated, while Obama's supporters were mostly young college kids, African Americans or educated caucasions.
I thought for sure a brawl was going to break out as some of the Clinton supporters got out of hand and were yelling and screaming and pushing people and grabbing the signup ballots, things got really heated when some big fat guy that was like 60 pushed the Obama campaign chair and then bumped me with his chest like he was a tough guy and said to get away from the table and sit down that he was taking charge, i shoved him and told the old man to sit down and then a bunch of big repugs in the Clinton camp that looked pretty tough came up along with a big hispanic man ...........and some big African Americans and military guys got up from the Obama bench and i'm pretty sure there would have been a fight if the Election chairman didnt jump up on a table and start yelling "We are all Americans and we are all citizens of the United States and we need to get along and not fight each other,,,,,,,,,he then said elections are a privlige and people who dont live in democracies would love to be able to have to spend hours waiting to vote to elect their leaders........at this point everyone applauded him and sat down.
Bottom line although it was chaotic and there was enough drama to make a movie out of this night, it was an interesting experience..........plus i got to be a delegate for Obama.
12:13 AM
MIKE: Everything you just reported above you need to immediately go to the Obama Website and report it- there is a Section that is Called NATIONAL VOTER CENTER. THEY NEED TO KNOW OF THIS. ( he has Lawyers on his Team- and he is a Constitutional Lawyer who got his start working on Voter Registrations- Voting is a VERY big issue to him). Please do it ASAP.
ABOUT OHIO:
I hear you, but I also know that here in Ohio Many Repugs were Voting for Obama, and did not want or like McCain or Hillary, but I also know that at the Website for the State there is Data MISSING. regarding WHOLE Counties , BIG Counties with BIG Cities , and also I can not locate the Absentee Ballots, the Provisionals, the Independents, OR Even WHO is WHAT Party. YET Other Issues were decided tonight.
But this I KNOW - as of 3am - the State is Saying that there was ZERO Turnout for Cuyahoga County., Frankling, Stark and Lake Counties ( a TOTAL of Seven Counties with Millions of Votes at Stake).
I have reported it.
4am, C&L Site has the following Raw Numbers:
97% Counted(reported)
Obama......941,873
Hill............1,173,873
( with 10% Difference now...and Obama is gaining)
So the website at C&L has 10% difference-which is better than 16%....but the Big Counties and the BIG Cities I can not find the results- of Cuyhoga or Cleveland- or the EARLY voters...or dayton, cincinattie, or Toledo....Something stinks...but I am too tired....
The thing that makes me so sad, is that NOW the MSM is going to tell us that HER Negative Tactics are winning.....I think we ALL need to take a Stand to the Democrat Party that we will not have a president or Candidate Represent US that acts in this manner.......it is Critical....It will be just more Rovian Tactics and More Bush years ahead if we just rollover....
She Did not Win Fair and Sqaure she attacked a Fellow Dem, and has been, it never really stopped after South Carolina......( Kind of like watching Bush in 2000 ? attacking people smearing them with horrible rumors and innuendo).
Let Dr.Dean and the DEM party KNOW how you feel...and post it on your blog.....we need to take a stand for Obama.
Ok, I was an Edwards man. I'm a Union guy and he spoke straight to where I live, if you get my meaning, but he's out now.
The point of this comment is to remind everyone of the original mission here, to be the Republi-cons- at any cost!
Should Obama get the nod, I will campaign hard and vote for him. Same thing for Hill. I'm waiting to see who Edwards backs. That individual will have my support. But there is no way in hell I will sit by and watch another Republi-con take the Presidency ever again! I would vote for Satan himself, before another Republi-con. At least I know what to expect from the Prince of Darkness.
d.
Sorry that should have read "beat the Republi-cons", not "be", sigh, dam fingers...
Time to do my nails....
d.
I blogged about last night this morning, and gave a little nod to you Enigma.
I am still shaking my head. My main frustration is at the MSM which seems mostly oblivious.
I am confident that you will continue to dig for the facts. Right now you may be the only one doing so.
Gryphen:
Thank you...I actually don't know WHAT I will do...I just know that there is something wrong here....I have a choice - dig at this or Help Obama get the Nomination...the Local Media here is all dumber than dirt and useless. So that option is out....and What Contact the State- the same ones who are certifying this? ......My head hurts even trying to figure it out...Today I am just going to take a deep breath and try to regroup.
My other BIG problem with Hill- I actually do no think or believe that she can beat McCain- at all- she is too hated and too devisive. And for me- her "mantadory insurance means that I will still have no healthcare....she is not against a draft...and the frigging war will not end under her- she is too weak to follow through or read an NIE. On Foreign Policy there is only ONE person that can redeem the mess we are in and that is Obama.
Deud:
I too originally was an Edwards Supporter, and I came to support Obama because of my son....and I listened to him , and read his books, and watched him, and his campaign is the most organized TEAM I have ever ever seen....It would really help if Richardson or Edwards had endorsed Obama....in a way they screwed him by not...and I don't have a reason for that...Thanks for what you said...It's it just I really really want Leadership that is Honest and has Integrity and cares about OUR Constitution.....a Civil Rights Attorney that teaches Constituional Law ....that is WHO I want as President.....and I am sick of the Bush /Clinton Dynasty......okay....that is all I have to say.....
At this point I fear I will have to move to Canada with my son..
LMAO! Gurlfren!
Hill can beat McSwine if we all get behind her. Even some Repubs are sick of the "REpubli-con" way of doing things, even some of them can see how badly our country and economy have been damaged.
Don't go to Canada! I am looking into buying a "resort" in Belize, where I will take all of my Lib'rul friends and form a commune, ala 1968! Wait and come with us! LOL!
Now the Draft...well, that is actually a pretty good idea, provided there are no exemptions other than physical or mental disabilities. Watch how fast our aggressive militaristic posture changes when rich kids have to die with their poor brothers and sisters! I have a feeling there would be a sudden "surge" in mentally deficient, physically handicapped folks named Biff and Muffy.
Your pal, deolehippie,
d.
Peace
Deud:
I hear you....I am disheartened and Something Fishy happened in my County...Just like the Zero Obama Votes in Harlem....something stinks...so I think my attitude is not good right now....at all......
I don't support the Draft for alot of reasons...but also because my son , the Gentle Giant, that hand carries bugs to the outside.... KNOWS what he wants to do...he wants to make Movies and work on movies...He knows this about himself and his future...and I want to do anything to make that happen...also there are nurse jobs and Film Schools in Canada...and I would finally have healthcare again....
Now on another note- sure , do put me on the Belize Commune List....Hell we should start Fundraising for that...
I have decided to let myself be in a Funk for a few days....I the Goddess of Hopemongering.....
I would feel much better if I knew where the hell my vote went...and My WHOLE County- and Cleveland....
but thanks...
E4E, the best film schools in the world are right here in the good ole USA, some are even state schools, so if 6-8 can handle residency for 6 months he can save a bundle. My daughter did that at Berkeley. Move to San Fran, lived there for 6 months and applied as a resident.
Anyway, he should be looking at Yale, Carnegie, NYU, and UCLA. For the tech side or theatre, Temple U, (I went there), in Philly is also excellent.
He should avoid any school that isn't listed above. If he wants to write, tell him to start writing now. Stories. These can later be turned into scripts once he learns the correct format. If he is interested in the tech side, he should work in a community theatre or try to intern with a local TV station, now! It is never to early to start on a career that will you will end up married to. It is almost as hard to be successful in my bizniz as it is to become a pro football player.
If he wants to act, he should go to LA or NYC immediately. He needs exposure and there are many fine acting classes taught by real pros, the best of which is The Actors Studio, in NYC. Haven't been to LA since I did Babylon V so I'm not familiar with the opportunities there anymore.
None-the-less, I have contacts everywhere so let me know what he wants to do and I'll be happy to help in any way I can.
Now, there is one exception to the rule. If he wants to produce he must have a Masters in Business from Wharton. Either that or a bunch of like-minded creative friends with whom he can do his own pic ala Spike Lee.
And it doesn't matter where you live Momma, it's gonna be up to him in the long run.
Any questions? LOL!
d.
Thanks Deud,
I am going to share all of this with him....believe me...thank you for taking the time to share such wisdom....He wants to write, direct...he is not an actor...There is a pretty good local program to start taking some basic classes....but thank you.. we are still trying to figure it all out..
enigma
I don't know if anyone is staying on those missing votes and raising a stink but I hope someone is. We can not afford another stolen underhanded election like I expect to happen!
You know, Avg Pat there seemed to be over-reacting to me when I first read his comment, however, upon reflection, it is possible that the Republi-cons may have stacked the deck in Hill's favor simply because they believe she is viewed by them as beatable.
Makes ya wonder...
d.
I posted this on my blog, both sinister implications - one about Rush Limbaugh urging Republicans to vote for Hillary in Texas in order to "bloody Obama up a bit."
The other very sinister story unfolding involves McCain's front man Charlie Black - a lobbyist for the company making a bid to buy Diebold Electronic Voting machines.
deuddersun
I have been saying that myself since Bush said a year and a half ago that he wanted Hillary to be the nominee because they would beat her.
Since the MSM is complicit and does not want their Repug driven gravy train to end they are now giving Hillary support to keep her going.
Hey all....
You are all pretty damn smart if I forgot to say that....and to everyone- I think we all are sitting scratching our heads today and doing alot of thought....and reflection...and yeah, we do need to talk to each other.....and maybe Gear Up because the Slime and Random Attacks are going to get worse....which is worse...
Patriot:
I know that we have all talked about Bush and his
"strategery".....it makes me sick....all of the manipulation and contrivances...I also after last night am very worried , more than ever about shenigans with the actual process....I am so tired of us being bombarded by dirty games....Is it too optimistic to hope that we can have Higher Integrity in OUR Own Party ? sigh.......I don't have an answer...
Lydia:
I realize now that I also don't know ALL of Ohio, and I am still wondering what went on down in the Southern Part of the state....The Charlie Black Factor is concerning as well...I actually stumbled by FOX (I was changing the channel to watch the weather channel right next to it....urgh) and yes, I got to hear Rush's WHOLE Speech and His Interview...he said LOUDLY that his main goal is to cause Chaos in the DEM party....and he was also in the reveling in HOW WELL Hillary has devided all of the DEMS and Boy , he liked that....he stopped just short of calling her a Good Repug....and yes.....I was horrified....and DO I wonder if Rove is Pulling a Lot of Strings Behind the Scenes ? yes......
Sorry ALL...I am just tired and confused...I need to regroup...But thank you...
By the way Enigma I thought you might like to know that Obama is going to win Texas.
I heard him answering some questions today, and he made the statement that Hillary won two states yesterday. And why did he say that? Because he is winning Texas that is why.
If you go to the website at (CNN:http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/dates/index.html#20080304)
Yu will see that so far Hillary has 65 delegates from Texas and Obama has 61. There are still 63 delegates left to be awarded for the caucus, which Obama is leading 56% to Hillary's 44%.Which means that either Obama is going to win Texas, or at the very least make it a tie.
My question is why did the MSM call it for Obama before the caucus was tallied?
Okay the address for that website is too long to put in the comments section. Just go to CNN Election Center and look at the numbers for yourself.
Stupid comments section!
Gryphen:
WOW...I just went and looked it up...you are right..and also he only lost Ohio.,..by less than 10%..that is not bad....2 weeks ago he was behind like by 16% , so that is pretty good....
Yes, I think considering originally Ohio was Hillary's by a huge margin, Obama did well against her there even though she won.
Did you ever hear anything new about the missing votes in Ohio?
they have been counting them today, after 4am they started, and so all day they have been counting..suposedly the site, ( yeah cough) was not updated properly....( after doing some checking round..).....but there were problems....
( I still have this weird feeling WHY would they wait until after 4am to count ALL the big cities...????and the numbers are still not as high as they should be in cuyahoga....I will write to the Sec office- but I want to keep looking at the data- there are things that are off)....
Rest up Enigma, you have to do it all again this fall.
Chin up enigma
Don't look for Dems to set a new standard. Bush and Rove have set the underhanded standard for the future and Dems are learning well. Don't worry just relax and do your wonder plugging away. We all appreciate it!
I just heard that Clinton's spokesman, Wolfson, compared Obama to Kenneth Starr. GIVE ME A BREAK!
I'm with you. I don't think I can vote for Clinton in November if she succeeds in being the nominee.
She's way too negative. I find that I like her less and less as she shows us that she'll do anything to win, no matter how dishonest.
Kenneth Starr??? I can't imagine this...
I don't see the connection?!
You don't see the Connection- because there is none!!!
...( my son pointed out that if SHE sees one -then she is pretty friggin paranoid...he is right..)
Obama ask that as a Candidate she open her Tax Returns and also her WH records- if she has 35 years of Experience- she should be proud to open those records and if she opens her tax returns that is a normal part of the vetting process...
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