Sunday, May 25, 2008

Sunday Evening Thoughts......


"The forgiving state of mind is a magnetic power for attracting good.
No good thing can be withheld from the forgiving state of mind".
Catherine Ponder

As Memorial Day approachs, I have been remembering people and places loved and lost....and I have also been thinking about how I have conducted myself. I have written Some Things that I am not so proud of, and even shared angst and anger and frustation.....yes, my post about Hillary on Friday even caused me even more reflection. But after getting some Hate Mail , I had some other thoughts. That maybe I was in some way feeding a cycle of Hate, that I don't even want to be part of, yes, by WHAT I wrote....And on another level I have friends that supported Hillary, and I don't want them to think that I am narrowminded or that they are not able to grieve or be sad about how this campaign has gone....I want to be able to fight McCain with people that care about how this country has been ruined in this past 8 years....I want Healing..somehow and someway...I just don't quite know yet how to get there...there is no road map....I wish there was. I am tired of the heartache and the tension.
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I am watching the Special about Truman on PBS tonight, he really was a man with varied experience...not really Presidential Experience at all....but American Experiences....I do this while I am fixing a broken Rocking Chair that I found in the trash....When I am done I will have a rocker again....Lovely. ( I'll post photos later in the week). But as I watch this and also fix the Broken Chair, It really Always comes down to Fixing What is Broken...with some good glue, patience, and Love....

**{Click the title AL Stewart and Peter White " On the Border"...1988}**

12 comments:

Gryphen said...

You know Enigma that I too have had concerns about being to harsh when dealing with Hillary.

It really does make some of her supporters feel justified in believing she is being attacked unfairly when we start name calling or expressing our anger and frustration.

But...I know that almost everything you posted was on target and justified. And don't forget that the Bushies lashed out at us for attacking their candidate when we pointed out things that have now been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt.

And in light of what we have recently learned about Hillary and how her mind works and what terrible things she may be pondering I feel much less concerned with being labeled a mysogynist or anti-female then in not getting the information about the Clinton's out to the voters.

I hear everyday that people have finally had enough of her and have changed camps. That happens after they find out WHO she really is. You and I, and many others, have simply helped to educate the voters. Now how can that be wrong?

Yes there are going to be hard feelings. And there are people who may never return to visit our blogs, and we may not often return to some of our old favorites either.

But there are new people finding us everyday, and we have an obligation to tell them the truth. And those who may have been angered by our harsh assessments will someday have to admit we were on the right track. They won't tell us, but perhaps they will admit it to themselves.

X. Dell said...

I've often viewed the Clintons as basically decent people who, like characters in a Greek drama, have these tragic flaws that threaten to undo them. Seeing that flaw so vividly in Clinton saddens me, for I voted for her in her Senate race. What's worse, I think it is the major catalyst in whatever divisiveness currently exists in the Democratic Party, not Obama or Obama supporters. I think you and others are reacting to a long series of aggressive comments made by Sen. Clinton, and not simply hatemongering.

I can understand that other Clinton supporters would feel a sense of chagrin (at best) or unwarranted fear (at worse, especially if the reasons have, admittedly or not, anything to do with race). So the tendency might be to lash out with hate mail or other things. The convention itself could be a major step toward healing this divide.

Ingrid said...

Catherine Ponder, now that is a name I haven't heard in a while. Ironically, the first time I heard about her was when I lived in Saudi Arabia..
At any rate, it is a natural inclination to want to be at peace even amidst disagreement. The reasonable person hopes and gives the space to agree to disagree. Then of course 'that' person finds that there are a lot of unenlightened people out there who have nothing better to do than to spew their hatred in the face of AN OPINION! Now I totally understand the self reflection BUT.. there is also such thing as putting the blame on yourself when it is NOT warranted. I know all about the laws of attraction, but don't take that too far to think that if someone misbehaves towards you that that reflects on YOU, instead of THEM. Sorry E, I'm not allowing you to flagelate yourself. You and I and many others are demanding a stop to that very hatred that Clinton has been feeding in her many devious and slight of hand ways. Is it any wonder that she has the type of followers that she does? Talk about THAT kind of law of attraction. No matter if some friends of yours might support her, would they be hateful to you for you being upset with her incitement (in essence) of someone to go and assassinate Obama? Hell NO!
so..tired as you are, I'm giving you a friendly kick in the booty and say, dust yourself off and stop feeling bad for yourself. Stupid is as stupid does and stupid AIN'T you!

hugs

Ingrid

enigma4ever said...

Ingrid:::
well..you made me laugh..thank you...I am just trying to really think things through..( I have been known to overthink...alot..) I am just trying to navigate a path through this...( I am glad that you recognize the writer...I read her back when I was working at an AIDS hospice in 1988....used to read her aloud to patients..)I have been getting alot of hate mail etc..and I just was thinking that What I write plays a role in this...but maybe it does not always help the situation....I don't want to feed THAT cycle.....I guess I am conflicted in like 20 different ways... BUT I really do appreciate what you said...word for word...thank you...

XDELL:::
thank you for saying that...I used to support them too...voted for Bill, and read all their books...thought I knew them...and certainly defended them over and over in the 90's......but you are right, in many ways this does feel like a Greek Tragedy at this point...or atleast watching one...I have had hate mail over the years- usually from Trolls, Repug Idiots, Thugs, or PRO-War thugs, so I have recieved bashing for supporting PEACE and bringing the troops home.,...BUT Hate mail for supporting Obama , from other Dems has me reeling..confused...really confused....I guess I always thought we as People, as Progressives, liberals were better than that.....and yes, I hope and pray that the Convention brings healing..I really do...and the sooner , the better....

GRYPHEN::::
Thank you...I hear you and I do understand..and appreciate what you are saying..and yes, I do think that some of it is about educating others....and sharing perspective...I do understand about some people leaving my blog- and I understand the divisions...but the hatemongering is real..and worrisome....I don't go to Hillary blogs and fling anything..I would never..so I don't understand some of it...but I also think that what I write is to be taken seriously....and I need to be more careful..I don't want to feed any flames of hate....I hope that makes sense...I stand by the post I wrote on friday...because I think I was fair ....and think XDELL is right...that once the healing starts..and we come together to face McCain...then it will be better...

kid said...

We have nails in our hands and nail in our feet, but we are not Jesus. Relax we all strive to prefection , but we are not perfect.As God as my witness that photo of Sen.Obama looks like a Norman Rockwell painting.You have a good eye.Take a DEEP look, seriously.

enigma4ever said...

KID:::
well..I don't know about the nails...I do know that wearing flipflops is a good way to cut one's foot with glass...Another lesson for the weekend..sigh..I hear you - seriously...

And yeah, that photo reallly does look like a Norman Rockwell- my son thought it was ???lol..

kid said...

I'm a boy scout and that loks like a Rockwell.You're a HELL of a photographer.

kid said...

Can i ask ? Are you a photographer or a cartoonist ?

enigma4ever said...

Photographer.....I try...Black and white are my favorite ( I also kinda have a photgraphic memory...so I am constantly absorbed by photos..)....BUT...I love cartoons....

enigma4ever said...

KID::
ooops , you do know I didn't take this photo..a NW friend sent it to me....( boy I wish I had..but it is my favorite Obama photo for sure..)

kid said...

eye know . It just shock the sh!t out of me.We all know how he did his paintings He's a good artist.

enigma4ever said...

amazing....one of my fav's for sure....