This story has been wafting around the Internets like old cheese in a missing gym bag....It won't go away but it can't be totally dismissed either...Please Johnny you need to settle this...before the convention...and in a "dignified manner"...and if it is true...please please don't make Elizabeth who we love stand next to you..you will have to face the music alone this time....And please don't expect us to "understand" and please don't be a "lawyer" and try to justify it....because frankly alot of folks are going to be very dissappointed in you and damn brokenhearted...
(originally posted at 11:30PM 8.7.08 I put it up...took it down..felt bad for Elizabeth...but here it is....and a photo of Reille Hunter...yeah that is her...John...really? seriously? WHY? .....reposted Friday Eve...then moved to Saturday as discussion continues...
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I wrote this last night...and took it down and then put it back..and then took it down..and finally hit publish at 3:35PM..because he admitted it..I was not going to hit Publish until he admitted it for Elizabeths sake....but ce la vie...
he did ..and he says he did not love her...like that makes any damn difference..so it was just sex? I mean what does THAT mean...geeez...
honestly? I think stress. Both him and Elizabeth lost their 16yr old son, created a few more kids to help cope (no offense, they admitted as much) and the stresses of running for office(s) and having Elizabeths' cancer return.. it probably was one of those 'weak' moments a lot of people in high places face.. I feel really bad for her as she wanted him to continue running for the nomination as she was going through the treatments... sometimes..it's life and not necessarily a 'fault'.. as much as Democrats straying becomes a fault as opposed to a Republican having a 'weakness' ('oh lord I have sinned'- shit I got caught)
Ingrid
Ingrid:::
I guess I am just dissappointed...or had him on some kind of pedestal...I mean...after all they had been through and she was still battling cancer in 2006...so I don't know the details of the timeline...but I do know there is nothing worse than being sick..trying to get better and have to realize there is Trouble at the same time...kinda thought he was better than that...really did...I also know that he is not the first man to Wander during Chemo- it happens more than I would like to admit....
I know it is life..and hell many leaders have had affairs and women- ahem- ( France -hello?) and leaders ( JFK, IKE, and Roosevelt, etc etc)...And many political folks think nothing of having an affair while a wife is sick ( hello MrMcCain)...sigh....
Hopefully this will not be shoved in our face 24 hours a day for the next 3 weeks...but MSM is myopic soooooo ....oye..
To me, it's beyond disappointing. I'm tired of being disappointed. After CNN started wall-to-wall coverage, we left to run errands. Now we're back & I don't want to turn on the TV. I feel very let down. Is it any worse than hypocritical repub BS? No. But it is certainly no better & I thought he was better.
My first thought was why is he coming forward talking about it NOW? I feel the hands of Elizabeth on this ... like she told him, well at least you can 'fess up publically, take your lumps, deal with it openly. Don't try to lie & hide. It's really the only way to deal with it & she is level-headed enough to see that.
So I am watching Countdown- I am confused...he possibly last hooked up with the Woman Oct 2006...and by Dec they decided to run...and March 2007 - they learned that her cancer was back ( which he could have dropped out...??then..did she not know? WHEN did she find out ? when did he tell her)....
oops DK..I meant to say- exactly I think she did tell him to set this right...I guess.
I think he was forced to admit it because there was more and more evidence coming out that it had happened. Otherwise why would he have done it now?
I am very disappointed in him.
me2 maui...me2...
I am sure it would have come out sooner or later......that he risked all of us too ..and that he did this to Elizabethe...so sad..
This isn't the first story of its kind. While I agree that it's a pity, I'm also starting to think that the National Enquirer is playing a greater role in public policy than we'd like to think.
well...and it also shows that we have NO investigative journalists left...it's not like they investigated the
Missing WMD's, the torture and renditioning issue, Gitmo, etc etc...
I am worried about the$$$ part of it- and that his people were writing her checks..if they really did- that is not good...at all....
ok I am putting it into perspective. it's a private matter and if we weren't such a sexually schizophrenic nation, we wouldn't care. all of a sudden our news people find they can dig & cover a story like this to death, but when the story involves shredding the constitution and illegal war crimes, they are ho-hum, where is the evidence.
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I think you are right..we wouldn't care...if this repressive stuff was not going on...all these years...it's ironic cuz I posted on AIDS rates this week too...and both situations are not being handled right...at all...and it's because of what you said above....
About John..I think the thing is- that we thought we knew him....trusted him....and that he had integrity...and a code...and well...he didn't....he did something really stupid.....
I read an article in Newsweek, or column whatever (it was at the airport and I needed something to read and good housekeeping doesn't do it for me).. anyhoo..the columnist was talking about the vetting process of the VP.. so why even try to run for the presidency/nomination when you have a huge skeleton in the closet? It's dumb and most of all, it would really come out to embarrass your loved ones..you on the other hand would deserve it.. so since elizabeth in her own words 'dealt with it' when he confessed (I don't believe it for a minute mind you, it could be a face saving thing on her part to say so) back in the day 'before' he decided to run..nope.. don't buy it.
Anyway..no matter the temptation..I do think it could happen to anyone, but regardless of whom you might disappoint (electorate incl) the real issue is your family's embarrassment..
Ingrid
Ingrid::
I know that affairs happen and that men in their 40's and 50's can have wandering well- urges...but this was reckless and foolish for someone running or prez..( talk about lack of judgement...the only good thing is that McGramps has some skeletons in his closet too..)
and yeah, well, VETTING wise the $$$ issue of this would have gotten snagged...so better to think of that before you run for anything..even VEEP...
Just now viewed the photo. Isn't that Neil Young?
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no LOL....according to Omnipotent Poobah... MsHunter looks like Camille Parker..go check out his photos...too much...
Lady Camilla, OMG, that is IT! But then husband just pointed out would we feel any less betrayed if she was gorgeous?
DK:::
omg..that is too funny....hmm, less ? but how will that make Elizabeth feel- do read the Maureen Dowd article I posted above- she really does nail some details that hit it right on the head....and read the part about how he sent her a Ken Doll...yup- really....
but seriously - I mean it- this woman is a total dog...also do read the Newsweek article on Huff post about this writer that met her in 2006- must have been while it was going on...
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