[originally posted 4.16.08 Liveblogged the Debate....and yes, Upside Down Flag- thank you Fran, means IN DISTRESS....}
But Hillary has claimed ALL along that she has the WhiteHaired Women Vote all sewn up.....ALL Over. ( I doubt it, otherwise there is NO explanation for HOW Obama WON in Vermont, Kansas, Idaho,North Dakota,Alaksa, and Utah etc etc...) Just to Prove the Point, Click the TITLE and watch the "White Haired Women for Obama" YouTube made for the MoveOn Obama Ad Competition. It is Priceless....and do share it....
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NOW ABOUT THE DEBATE......It's Disney we KNOW this is going to be bad, the Question is How Bad ?
and Yeah...Pass the Damned Bourbon , I am indeed Liveblogging the Debate in the Comments....Have Mercy on my soul the "F" word may fall from my lips...and things may be heaved at the TV again...Join me...if you like...or dare.
WATCH KEITH'S POST MORTEM AT 10PM BECAUSE THIS DAMN DISNEY DEBATE WAS LAME...THANK YOU.....Please excuse the Rude Commentary by Enigma.....there was not enough mylanta...PLEASE SEE THE POST ABOVE ABOUT WHO TO CALL
BTW SO WHERE IS HILLARY'S USA PIN AND WHY DOES NO ONE EVER ASK ?? ( Blueberry asked this- I never see her with one either...and Christopher over at From The Left has a post up about it as well...)
***{ Please see the new posts today below about the PoetryMan, and the Boss}***
38 comments:
Words that we will here:
Elitist ?
Sniperfire ?
Experience?
Fake Human Story ( you know dead patients)
( 2 shots Bourbon or Mylanta)
Will she wink at George ? or Charlie?
Will she wear her Colonel Mustard Pantsuit ?
Pearls & Pantsuit Prissy Fit ?
Will she go Shrill?
Cackle?
Hold on to your hat and lets find out....
Charlie is explaining the "fair" Anal Retentive "Rules"....
Opening Statements...
Obama First ( sorry Hill...don't get "bitter " over it):
He is cool, collected....right to the point...People are Frustated and Hurting...
Hill staring .....Stink Eye...
Hill: rehearesed Speech...Botox smile stuck on her face....Ugle ass Blue suit....Walmart Bangles...blah blah..blah...eyes darting like there is a fly on stage....
snooooorrrrreeeeee.....
( 6-6 has already started throwing spitballs...)
AN AD....thank god.....it is only 8:06....
This is why I never turn my back on a nun. The sisters may be packing heat.
I will visit during the live blogging as often as I can.
Let the snark begin!
Thanks G....Its gonna rip tonight...
Hill Looking Imperial....pissed....
Charlie: " Something about Cuamo " fight to the end, pledge now that you will pick the other as your running mate WHY NOT?"
DEAD SILENCE...THEN AUDIENCE LAUGHS NERVOUSLY.......
Hill bite lip looks down...
Obama bites and explains with dignity WHAT is going to happen ( dodges the Running mate part)
( Damnit we NEED a Split Screen...shit)
Obama is quiet...controlled....ouch a backside view of hills rump....ouch....
( Some Colonial Times crap about the VP should be runner up - Neither is biting on this crappy ass idea- thank good)
Hill- Blah Blah tight contest...support our nominee...Blah blah...( STILL has NOT looked at him once.....chicken ..) Oh crap she is talking about Holding hands and people she has touched...( yeah BITE ME....)
Obama Question ( oh gee shock it is the Fucking Bitter Question....Geesus tapdancing in a thong Let this fucking thing go....) He is answering this with grace and dignity...Bless him he is explaining that we all are Having a Godamned Hard Time- GGGEEEE hat a shock...and he is talking FACTS of the Hell we ALL are having.....ABout DC not listening...he is dead serious...and speaking the facts about WHY people are hurting for so many years.....( kick ass Honey....DO IT....cuz we are bitter....) he says that people are hurting and we need to keep talking about it.....
Hill: Oh holy shit she is whipping ouit Dead Mill workers Relatives ( she is sooooo full of shit)....blah blah...ooops NOW she is saying they don't cling to religion( BIG mistake Hill....Reality check sweetie...you are sooo wrong)
8:15 Pm
( She is making me grind my teeth- hell if I had a gun _ I would be ready to shoot my tv- thank you Hill)
Hill: Goes on and On...blah blah....
George:( ohhhhh bad blood) he is bringing up Richardson - and DID she SAY that Obama CANT win?
Hill: she dodged the fucking question and NOW she is blathering HOW Wonderful McCain is....and NOW she is talking about her Experience....( Drink Up- First Shots)
George: HE MADE HER ADMIT that Obama Can win...Oh the PAIN in her eyes.....
Hill: still going on and on about she is strong enu to go against McShame ( BTW she scores 20 points lower in the polls to face McCain...)
Obama: Oh he jumps in an picks up the Elite Crap...and SETTLEs it- "I am a MAN OF FAITH...EXPLAINS ABOUT GUNS STUFF ETC..."
BUT HE IS PUTTING THIS BABY TO DEATH...( TALKS ABOUT HILL IS BEATING THIS TO DEATH...IT IS NOT HELPING THE PEOPLE...THANK YOU BARRY!!!!)
( HE IS ROCKING IT..)
8:20Pm
Obama:
"Hill learned the wrong lessions, people want Politics that are Different and people are frustated and angry...."
Hill is PISSED ...."IT WAS N'T JUST ME- IT WAS PEOPLE THAT FELT TARGETED BY IT (SHE IS IS SO FULL OF SHIT- WHAT A LIAR)blah blah blah....oh yeah it was the People and NOt me...blah "Experience and Experience 35 years ( DRINK UP....)
Passion and I empower people to do it for themselves ( wtf????)
OBAMA:
( Charlie asked about the speech and the Fucking Wright issue again....OH Plez can we please Just let this go....it has been too much too long....)
8:23 PM
Obama"Charlie I have discussed this issue EXTENSIVELEY ...((( blah blah...sorry- but comeon folks we have all heard this over and over...WHEN will this stupid ass Discussion end- have you noticed that the MEida Punditheads NEVER ask about his Wonderful speech????Wow unreal....) He goes on and on about Bridging about Divsions...that now is our time to do that UNITE and GET Beyond this
( Fuck you charlie LISTEN AND LET IT GO....now he is going on and about imflammatory pastor...)
Hill: Great NOW she is going on and on about WHAT kind of Church she needs and WHAT SHE would have done ( WHY should she be able to judge the Pastor or someone's religions or someone'else's church....)
Obama: Explains AGAIN ( for the 100th time).... Charlie shut up...He is calm...collected...and answering well.....OH NOW he is being Smooth- explaining that even Hill['s Pastor did not judge Wright....Explaining that it is nOT just about the pastor..
( this is absurd...waste of time...Obama is cooll....But I am sooooo tired of this stupid discusssion the dumass white men NEED to grow up and LEt it go- they sound like idiots...)
8:30
George:
BUT what about the video- that is played again and again ( Hey here's a clue Georgie- YOU THE MEDIA STOP playing it ad nauseum???!!! there is an idea...)
OKAY NOW we have beaten this fucking dead horse for another 15 minutes ..Guess what we have MOVED ON...America has MOVED ON- did you see THE SPEECH he gave....
Hill:
WE need to bring people together Over and past the Bitterness ( What the hell is she talking about ???) NOW she is IMPYING that he is CONNECTE AND HAS A RELATIONSHIP WITH FARRAKON???WHF????
GEORGE:
HILL HONESTY ISSUE IS ON THE TABLE...."Credibility Issue " is on the table ( tape was played ) " I am not dumb " "I wrote it in my book and I wrote a differnet version" I embarrassed and it was a mistake ( BUT BUT it was a Lie...about Sniper Fire.....she mentions about snipers again...LIES again...she mentions Wesley Clark...WHO btw stoped campainging with her)...OH now SHe says it is that she was a little Inaccurate ( what a load of Horseshit....Obama staring at her???)
Now George is asking about Obama and his questioning her Credibilty?
8:35PM
Obama:
He explained that he has not commented on her Bosnia Story....and yes his campaign has asked questions ( and Hill Cackles )....He brings up that we are Facing SOME HUGE problems- he is switiching dialogue to WHAT matters...and what we need to be talking about ( smack to the Punditheds...)
He is calm and smart about this
( I heard a smattering of applause)
QUESTION ABOUT THE FUCKING AMERICAN FLAG ......OKAY THAT IS IT- I NEED A DRINK....WHAT A LOAD OF HORSEHIT....I AM SITTING HER STRTUGGLING TO PAY MY GODDMAN BILLS WITH NO HEALTH INSURANCE AND NO REAL JOB AND THIS IS THE BEST QUESTIONS THESE DOUCHBAGS COULD COME UP WITH ???
DID ROVE WRITE THE ASSWIPE QUESTIONS????
I KNOW WHO IS OUT OF TOUCH - THE MSM IS OUT OF TOUCH.....
and yeah, Obama is answering with dignity and grace....
I swear to god.....
ABC TO TAKE THEIR DISNEY ASS KISSING QUESTIONS AND STICK THEM WHERE THE FUCKING SUN DON'T SHINE....
WE HAVE REAL PROBLEMS IN THIS COUNTRY.....
CLAPPPPPING CUT OFF BY GEORGE....
WELLL I GUESS WE REALLY ARE FACSIST....
NOW GEORGE IS ASKED ABOUT WEATHER UNDERGROUND ????WTF????
I am not going to get to watch this for three more hours!
Fuck ABC! If they are going to be a "News" network then they have to get the information to me while it is still "news". By the time I see it for myself it will have the same effect as watching the Hindenburg burn in those old b&w films. It was amazing but you were not there, but here is some old footage taken by people who actually saw it. Ooh Aahh!
And what am I going to do with all of the snark I have built up for this very occasion? If only I had some place to get it out of my system. I don't know like making a nasty sign, or hiring a sky writer or maybe putting it on a blo...oh...I have to go now.
Keep up the live blogging Enigma, you are my only link to the world on the outside.
George: Obama is explaining to yo ( you Moron) WHAT and WHY this is Irrevelent...this does not make much sense...."I was 8 years old"...I can not explain or defend Everryone I know...American People are smarter than that ( he rocked it)...
NOW AMAZING Hill is blathering on and on about HIS connection to Aryres ( amazing that SHE KNOWs all this....DID SHE FEED THE QUESTION TO ABC????WTF???) she is going on and on about WE don't KNOW Eniugh about HIM.....WHAT is she saying....
Obama:
He is explaining that Clinton PARDONED THE WEATHER UNDERGROUND PEOPLE FOR ACTS 40 YEARS AGO...I HAVE TAKEN SOME GOOD PUNCHES FROM HER, BUT I SHOULD NOT BE TAKING THIS FROM HER- I EXPECT IT FROM MCSHAME..( wow that was a good comeback...excellent)
we need to talk about things that matter like how to get our troops out of iraq....
BREAK>........
LISTS OF THINGS ABC SHOULD ASK HILL::::
(1) COLUMBIA/PENN ISSUE
(2) THE TAXES, AND DOES THE CLINTON foundation have ANYTHING TO DO WITH FUNDING HER CAMPAIGN?
(3) WHY HAS SHE WRITTEN OFF DIFFERENT STATES?
(3) HER WALMART EXPERIENCE?
(3) OTHER THAN FIRST LADY EXPERIENCE WHAT REALL EXPERIENCE DOES SHE HAVE???AT ALL?
HEY GRYPHEN:
CHECK AND SEE IF IT IS LIVESTREAMING? ( AND DON'T FORGET KEITH IS DOING SPECIAL COUNTDOWN POST MORTEM....OH AND CHECK CSPAN???)
CHARLIE: ( tape about Iraq and getting the troops out?)
HILLARY::: Charlie and asked what Wolson said ( I don't understand what was said- sorry).
The Question was WILL she STILL Bring the Troops HOME when she takes office ...She says that she will begin to withdraw in 60 days ( or start) Good answer....if she means it....( I don't trust her...sadly)
Intense diplomacy she says...and that she will begin with other countries ( that is NEW- before she has not said that).....( camera flashes to Wesley Clark and Chelsea)
Now Charlie is Quoting Betrayus....( ass)
" But the General said different"
Hill says she will still stick to the 60- days...talks about our position in the world...does mention the Afgansitan issue ..
( she sucked at the hearings sadly)
Talks about being mired in there...blah blah.,...
way over time.....
NOW he is asking about Obama the same question....
Obama explaining that the COmmander in Cheif is suposed to set the mission -not the general- But this is not how things have been done- we have had terrible civilian leadership make bad diecions...
He sounds presidential....explains about how Al Queda works about Pakistan and Afganstan....calm and clear....
George cut him off and switches to Question about Nuclear question and Iran ( of course this was so perdictable- they NEVER bring up Pakistan- a much bigger threat....considering Al Queda is NOT in IRan...)
Obama explaining the issues, the concerns..and HOW it works and how it should be postured...
( this wins as the crappiest dumbest debate yet- beause the moderators are idiots)
Obama is explaining about IRAN again!!!
9pm:
NOW Hill is saying we are a dangerous place with Iran ( what a fucking load)...she is pushing the fearmongering.......but now she is saying that diplomacy is needed ( she has never said that before....she is repeated alot of Biden's talking points form the other night...) and now again for the 20th time tonight she is humping 911....amazing....and she is rambling about how other countries to be courted against IRAN ( this is NOT smart- this is the Bush agenda...amazing....that she is humping the Iran agenda....WOW...she is fearmongering this point...and there are NO facts to back up what she i is saying...and Obama was NOT allowed to talk on this issue- so much for BALANCED questions.....shit...)
McCain says something about Audicity and Taxes adn Hope on a Taped Question ( great another Hillary Question THREE in a ROW George- why don't you just Interview you her one sunday - What about FAIR TIME FOR BOTH CANDIDATES......shit)
(she has been handed the last NINE minutes by George...)
9:07Pm
Hill is still balthering on and on andon blah blah.....fuck a duck...
FINALLY:
Obama On taxes....cooll calm collected...good answer....I am TIMING what he gets to answer,..Explains...everythign well....NOW Charlie is explaining to him about the fucking wonders of BILL Clinton...this is unreal....
9"12 6-6 and I are yelling at theTV and being rude sorry...hill bored us...sorry.....she is blathering on and on...
( so 6-6 and I are talking..so sorry ...But I am taking a little break with him..)
They are beating taxes to death..
9:18PM
BREAK.......
Wish I hadn't eaten before watching this as I feel like barfing.
9:25 WE are back....
Charlie mentions VT shooting issue....
NOW Hill is blathering on and on and on about the gun issue pandering to NRA and balh blah....
Obama Is speaking about the Columbia issue and danger of arm issues- gun control issues - very careful and explaining the problems...and why this is not working ( NOT pandering cough cough)....
( Charlie still keeps interrupting...???what the fuck... charlie mentions somthing about how Obama wanted to ban registering guns - really????Charlie has this allll wrong...Obama corrects him)
George:asked Hillary about the Columbia Gun ban...joke about Dick and gun laws...she still has NOT answered the question...SHE will NOT answer the question about Gun laws...( she is basically saying that she will DO whatever the NRA wants...)
Charlie and George have both asked her over and over.....
George " Something about your daughters are affluent should they be treated differently than poor children and girls " ( WOW what an Eltist question)
NOW Obama explains that this is a matter of Poverty and Circumstances....( what kind of question is this- SO ONLY POOR Black girls get into trouble????WOW...can you spell RACIST QUESTION GEORGE ??)
OBAMA SMOOTH CALM...( the question pissed me off)
Here Larry- a Mylanta Bourbon Shooter and a trashcan..Hang in there friend....
Hill is blathering on and on....and being spoon fed questions by these twits....
Fuck it.......
Okay I am just going to say this - this debate has been far from fair- the questions have NOT been evenly divided...and Hillary has been given THREE times as much TIME.....SEND OBAMA money tonight- he will need to slam the PA area with ads the next three days....
George asked Something about Bush...??????
Hill : is blathering on and on about Bill going around the World with Bush Sr....she is clear that ALL Former Presidents should still be able to serve and do good for the country.....
Obama : refers postive to Daddy Bush was better diplomatically....and then AD came and he got cut off...
9:48 PM
Charlie Question:::
( to Hill first of course)
"""So we get to the Convention and we are undecided...
What would you tell Undecided SUPER delegates"
Hill ::: blah blah why I am a better Candidate...It takes a Vilage Crap....
Obama:::: about What we realy need - he is doing fine....( we have heard all this over and over...)
Holy Fucking helll this was the most painful debate I have ever ever sat through...
NO MORE DISNEY DEBATES::;
My apologies for foul language- there is now 5 dollars put in the JAR....
and I have sent money to Obama ( the rest of my cuss funds...)
Thank you for being here.....
DON'T FORGET TO GO WATCH KEITH !!!!
KEITH UPDATE:
(1) KEITH EXPLAINS GEORGE GOT HIS QUESTIONS FROM FOX ????HOLY SHIT....UNREAL....WATCH KEITH.....ABC GOT THEIR QUESTIONS FROM FOX....
(2) WATCH HOWARD FINEMAN EXPLAIN THAT OBAMA WAS QUESTIONED ABOUT THINGS THAT WERE ABSURD....ABOUT FARRAKAN, AND WRIGHT, AND AYERS...( IT WAS SWO STRANGE)
(3) FINEMAN POINTED OUT THAT HILL SAID " I AM STILL HERE"
(4) Eugene: explained that he thought was not fresh...old questions old answers....then he said that only a few things came out in the 2nd half....
first half was all tabloidy
(5) Howard asked by Keith about the Bitter or Wright or Aryers story....would anyone watch after all that ? ( Fineman points out the debate was aimed at the Superdelegates...he is right...)
(6) Fineman says that alot of this was about Obama is the presumptive candidate...and is he good enough ?
Eugene/Fineman and Keith:
explaining that it really was a debate for the Superdelgates - NOT the regular people....
Obama did have some ready answers...but also he has been saying some of this over weeks...( Wright) ....The pardons by CLinton of the Weather Underground - those were GOOD answers...
NEXT....Casey will speak..
Casey:
Pointed out that the Tactics used against Obama by Clinton have been been unreal...he looks pissed...
I don't think I've ever seen Hill looking more plastic, and it was clear as day that the questions were coming out of Der Rovesmarschall's ass.
This wasn't a debate. This was a joke. The Chimpromised MSM doing its damnedest to bring Barack down. I think that even the Hill-bots have to be able to recognize it.
Jolly:
you got it right.....
ROVE and FOX...
Rusty:
I left you a Messege on the Post Above.
My Blog. My Rules.
Period.
For those that made it through this entire commentary.....Liveblogging I did cuss...ALOT...
it was the worst thing I ever saw..
I actually don;t drink....
BUT this would have been the night...
my teenager 6-6 walked out....during one of the AD breaks " If I was there, I would walk out. or BOO.."
he also asked if in the history of me being a news junkie ( which we all know started when I was a kid watching NIXON......had I EVER seen Anything like This....I said NO....never...)
I don't recall her saying anything about having the white-haired women vote sewn up.
Her Surrogates have ad nauseum over and over On CNN and MSNBC, and also BILL has said it...and Lanny Davis...sorry NB...
( Don't get me wrong- I want a Woman as President some day- just NOT this Woman- the Bosnia Lies, her Scorched Earth Path...all of it has been shameful - and how she acted her in Ohio- screaming about Obama ( because he sent out flyers that quoted her...All of it has been pathetic and NOT Presidential....and Bill has been just as embarrassing...I also seriously worry would Bill be her VEEP?)
Her Surrogates have ad nauseum over and over On CNN and MSNBC, and also BILL has said it...and Lanny Davis...sorry NB...
( Don't get me wrong- I want a Woman as President some day- just NOT this Woman- the Bosnia Lies, her Scorched Earth Path...all of it has been shameful - and how she acted her in Ohio- screaming about Obama ( because he sent out flyers that quoted her...All of it has been pathetic and NOT Presidential....and Bill has been just as embarrassing...I also seriously worry would Bill be her VEEP?)
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