Friday, September 26, 2008

NEW DEBATE THREAD .....10PM ( and the Post Mortem and Early Reviews)

Obama looking so calm ....unflappable against McCoot..

48 years ago tonight Nixon debated Kennedy......Another Night when young Senator took on Established Leadership....and spoke up for the Common Man....and did an outstanding job....A Big Thank You to everyone who came and Liveblogged with me, and even those who stopped by later.....It is really nice to know that there are people like you that think and read and care and smart....and that Obama is fighting for people like us...It gives me hope...and YES Thursday Night BE HERE, we will watch the Palin Biden Debate...and yes, I will Liveblog it...


**{ So where was the Moose Princess during the Debate ?? At a bar in Philly....I am sorry - but she should have been in a hotel room with pen and paper watching and learning...A Bar ??? What kind of Mom ,especially one with a newborn goes to a bar to watch a Debate.....other than Britney Spears ??}**

108 comments:

Bradda said...

Does McCain know that The Czech Republic is not Czechloslovia?

Kellybelle said...

Iran, you know the country you want to bomb?

Kellybelle said...

bradda: I didn't---whoa did he evoke the Holocaust?

Bradda said...

"We can;t afford another Holocaust"

REALLY? Thanks John...

Fran said...

Newsflash John~ You don;t have to go to Afghanistan, you CAN e mail & videoconference

Bradda said...

fran, John doesn't KNOW about that stuff, lol

Fran said...

How's that for diplomacy... The Iranians have a Lousy government,

Gryphen said...

I think McCain jsut used a word he does not fully understand.

How does Iran pose an "existential" threat to Israel? It either is a real threat or no threat at all.

This is not a fucking philosophy class.

And Gryphen uses the "F" word at 1:05 of the debate. He is demonstrating remarkable restraint.

enigma4ever said...

yeah...he brought up the Holocaust ???WHAT ????

"Serious threat""

( well, maybe we should not sing Bad songs about bombing them....)

( fran- the joke is that McCain has not even been there in over 20 monthes..)

Kellybelle said...

He is spelling out how bad the war in Iraq is.

Bradda said...

Teeth grind, teeth grind...lol

Bradda said...

gryphen, great point...

enigma4ever said...

gryohen::
You deserve an award that you never said the EFF word sooner...

Obama::
DIPLOMACY...wow...great point....lovely....

Kellybelle said...

Akschmahhjaadineedad

Bradda said...

LOL!!!!! Say his name JOHNNY!!

Kellybelle said...

peeralllstrika

enigma4ever said...

McCain is acting like an idiot...and saying things that are not true again...

ABout the Talking issue....Obama is going to let him have it...

We have to talk to other countries...

"legitimize " illegal behavior...

( he is having trouble talking..Hmmm)

"Precondtions" ????

Kellybelle said...

Day-um.

Bradda said...

Preconditions, like the pre-nup Cindy made you sign John? I see your point...lol

Gryphen said...

"Glasnoust"?

"Perestryka"?

I think that John's meds are starting to wear off.

Bradda said...

HAH, tea!

enigma4ever said...

when McCain says his name he sounds like he is sneezing...

Fran said...

Ooooh there is a table & we can come to it & sit & talk? With anyone without pre conditions....

Maybe they could even have tea

What is the word I seek?????


Diplomacy....

Kellybelle said...

day-um. he just did a Kennedy School of Gov't Harvard double smash on McCain's arse!

Kellybelle said...

No he didn't bring up Spain. LOL

Bradda said...

BTW......WHERE'S McPatriot's flag lapel pin dammit!!!!!!!!!! He hates Amuurica

Fran said...

10 points for the Spain remark--A NATO member SPAIN

Kellybelle said...

South Koreans are...tall?

Gryphen said...

Oh please John tell us what Obama does not understand.

Because from where I sit it looks like he understands pretty much EVERYTHING!

Bradda said...

The first presidential debate and NO American flag lapel pin?? I'm astonished...let's see if the MSM will attack him for it...like they did Obama

enigma4ever said...

okay a stinking old man should not say " stinking corpse" kind makes me gag...

now he just sounds like an old geezer who has not taken his meds....

Cart said...

Sorry, I'm lost in pre-conditions....

Bradda said...

Kissinger??? UGH...

enigma4ever said...

kelly- South Koreans are tall compared to him...

McCain is getting TESTY..VERY....meds are wearing off....

enigma4ever said...

Bradda I am sorry about that Lapel Pin...I will send a note to Cindy right now....

Bradda said...

Enigma, HEH i just thought it was funny...how could he forget to wear the one thing that PROVES he loves Amuurica, lol.

Gryphen said...

Oops Obama done screwed up.

The dust-up between Russia and Georgia was not all Russia's fault.

Georgia instigated it to give McCain the opportunity to talk tough and look Presidential.

Bradda said...

Easy John....Easy...don't start the Cold War again....easy boy

Gryphen said...

And now McCain takes his opportunity to act all indignant that Obama did not condemn Russia right off the bat.

That was a set up.

Bradda said...

gryphen, it seems that way doesn't it?

Kellybelle said...

I missedit--AT&T called me

Fran said...

naiva-tay

Bradda said...

Ashinko whoathinko?? FIX America dammit!

Bradda said...

fran, he said it like Cartman from South Park...naiva TAY..lol

enigma4ever said...

Obama did fine...BUT MCCain needs to answer some questions about HIS man being in Georgia stirring up trouble...

now and he is screwing up the whole thing- and trying to Fearmonger about Ukraine....

McCain would LOVE the Cold war to come back...

Fran said...

lol bradda.....

it's like they gave McCain a list of foreign names he should prattle off

Fran said...

No Obama NOT nucear energy.

How could he with his own little kids?

enigma4ever said...

MCCain keeps smiling - this insipid old man grin - like he has a load in his pants ???what ???like he heard a dirty joke ???what..

Energy is brought up....thank you...over 23 years MCCain voted against Alternative Energy- Obama points this out and McCain LAUGHS ?????WHAT ????

Bradda said...

There's really no real direction with this debate, they're asked issues then start rambling all over the place answering charges against one another...get it together Jim L.!

enigma4ever said...

He sneers and said " NO ONE cares about wind and solar" DID he say that ???wow arrogant old shit....

Alien Citizen said...

Which channel are you all watching? After the pre-debate talking heads, I turned to CNN for the debate so I could see the audience reaction gizmo at the bottom of the screen.

Gryphen said...

Obama let McCain have the last word.

DON'T DO THAT!

Bradda said...

You let the president shit on your torture bill you liar!! Liar!!

Cart said...

If bullshit was music it would be played on bagpipes

Fran said...

Oh the John & Joe Lieberman love story re the 9-11 commission. The one the repugs fought to not have?

Alien Citizen said...

It's a safer nation? Tell that the victims of that bridge that collapsed or the victims of Katrina who had so little federal assistance with all the national guard over in Iraq and Afghanistan. Tell that to my grandmother who had to remove her shoes in the airport...

Bradda said...

gryphen, that pissed me off too!

Gryphen said...

Did McCain just bring up torture?

The man who voted to allow waterboarding is getting on his high horse about torture?

Un-fucking-believable!

Cart said...

Obama just lost Australia when he claimed America is the 'greatest nation on Earth"... But then we are assured Sen Obama doesn't understand :)

enigma4ever said...

2 Minutes::

oh shit...

WHAT IS THE CHANCE OF ANOTHER 911

( oh yeah....this will be way more than 2 Minutes )
omg..he is such a fucking liar- HE DID NOT HELP START THE 911 Commisssion - he had NOTHING to do with it- I watched ALL those hearings ....LIARS...

( we need trained interrogators so there won't be more torture) He says ALL of this with a very shaky voice..sounds like he is gonna cry - oh boohooo....blink more johnny....)

Obama:::
calmer...less dramatic....hmm, mentioning the failures...and lapses...suitcase nukes- yup- very smart to point this out....missile defense...nuclear proliferation ( nice to here that word without 3 syllables) THE WAY WE ARE PERCIEVED IN THE WORLD RESTORE OUR STANDING IN THE WORLD CRITICAL ...( thank you...)NOW he mentions Torture issue.....

DO you agree John...??????

( NOW he says something about Missle defense and reagon ????who the fuck cares about Reagon...shot now the geezer is perpetreating the 911- al queda fearmongering crapola....puke...)

Fran said...

McCain just used Obama's *he does not get it* line-- but jeez.... we've seen the wrong path Johnny we need to get the hell off that path,

enigma4ever said...

NOW McCain is saying that Iraq is fragile ?????before he said it was Fine????he contradicted himself again..and we are supposed to be very very scared...lordy...

Obama really gets that Iraq has globally weaked us ALL over the world...WOW...how could anyone not get this- it ain't rocket science...

Kellybelle said...

I'm back. I was trying to convince the AT&T man to vote for Barack.

PTSD! That's my thing.

IS he trying to come up with experience?

Bradda said...

Enigma, GREAT pickup, I thought that too when he said it, McCain is a flipflopper...

Bradda said...

Obama is STUBBORN?? Pot call kettle black much!?!?

Kellybelle said...

Stubborness in this administeation!!!!!!!!!!! Is he trying to compare Barack to Bush?
This mutha****** is CRAZY!

Fran said...

My bullshit-o-meter is in the red zone. McCain is going to take care of veterans?
Really Give them your houses & 12 of your cars.

Bradda said...

But you voted agianst the vets over and over John....fucking liar...

Alien Citizen said...

Oh yeah, McCain for peace. Hah.

enigma4ever said...

cart- he has to say that Greatest nation thing to get votes in Kansas...

alien::: good to see you ;-)
yeah...unreal...huh????

McCain....blah blah....I think he has made bad decisions and that he has Stuborness...WTF?????johnny please go take your meds...."I will take care of the VETS" ( liar- you have NOT taken care of them- 300,000 HOMELESS VETS- go tell them you are sorry)....

Alien Citizen said...

I know...what a joke to compare Barack to Bush. Especially coming from McCain.

enigma4ever said...

( Kelly PTSD is my thing too....long story for another time...and MCShit has NOT once ever mentioned it..)

damn McShit got the last word...

Bradda said...

Well, well, well....that was interesting.

Kellybelle said...

Barack won!!!!

Gryphen said...

Oh damn Obama is talking truth about how America is viewed around the world now.

He just lost the undereducated hillbilly vote.

Alien Citizen said...

The audience reaction meter dipped every time talked about his time in the box...

enigma4ever said...

96 Minutes:::

Post Mortem - what did you all think ????

Gryphen said...

Is it over?

But I was not done yet!

Damn my stamina!

Cart said...

I think Kermit the Frog would have outclassed McCain. And I forgive Obama his chauvinism.

Bradda said...

cart, Fozzie would have owned McCain tonight!!

Gryphen said...

McCain did not do as poorly as I expected. But Obama clearly kicked his wrinkled old ass.

Bradda said...

All Obama had to do tonight was kept it cool and show he knows his shit. This was his one "weakness", foriegn policy, and he held his own. The next debates will be brutal......NIGHT all.....twas fun.....see you next time!!

Alien Citizen said...

I don't think I got a lot of new information tonight.

Fran said...

I STILL THINK MCCAIN WAS USING MORSE CODE WITH HIS CRAZY EYE BLINKING

THE WE ARE WINNING & THE SURGE IS WORKING LINES ARE A REAL GLIMPSE INTO HOW OUT OF TOUCH MCCAIN IS

Alien Citizen said...

The lesson of Iraq is that you can't have a failed strategy that will then cause you to lose a conflict??? Freaking profound. Too bad he just realized this.

Fran said...

I THINK KELLYBELLE NAILED IT FOR AN OVERALL SUMMARY ABOUR MCCAIN

This mutha****** is CRAZY!

WHEN I READ THAT TO THE PEOPLE IN THE ROOM EVERYONE BURST OUT INTO LAUGHTER

Cart said...

Australia shuts down now for the Aussie Football grand final. Maybe my team will win that one too.
Enjoy

Kellybelle said...

Couldn't have watched it without y'all thanks!

Jackie said...

Obama threw Kissinger back into McCain's face.

BOOOOYAAAH.

enigma4ever said...

Obama WON....Clearly ;-)

McCain came off as a snotty grumpy old man....I could not take another WWII or Reagon story....

enigma4ever said...

Thank you all for being here....I am really grateful - for years I sat here alone and liveblogged- which I am sure has caused brain damage....( No one should liveblog alone- not these thing ;-)


You are all so wise and funny- thank you ...Many Hugs !!!!!

Now get out there and VOTE and Support Obama and in January -we will have a NEW Real Leader...

Fran said...

THEY HAD A ROOM FULL OF UNDECIDEDS VOTE POST DEBATE ON WHO WON-- IT WAS AN OVERWHELMING OBAMA

Christopher said...

I just wish Obama hadn't kept saying "I agree with Sen. McCain."

It's as if Obama needs to dial back from this nice guy act as he did during the primaries with, "Sen. McCain is a genuine war hero," and, "I respect Sen. McCain's service to this country."

I don't know why Obama is afraid to go on the offensive and remain there.

enigma4ever said...

wow...that 's cool fran- Where was that??

Alien Citizen said...

I wish Obama had directly challenged this view that the surge has been successful. If I had been in that debate, I would have directly stated the number of both soldiers and Iraqis that have died since the surge and in total and ask if explain to the families of these people how this is success...

Alien Citizen said...

that is - I'd ask if he could explain to the families of these people how this is success...

Fran said...

I THINK JOHN UP THERE STUTTERING AND STUMBLING ON TRYING TO PRONOUNCE FOREIGN NAMES WAS REMINISCENT OF BUSH, ONLY MCCAIN BUNGLED IT, WAS LIKE DUDE, GIVE IT UP.

I THINK IT LOOKS TACKY FOR MCCAIN TO USE THE SAME LINES OBAMA USED IN A DEBATE AGAINST OBAMA-- HE NEEDS TO COME UP WITH HIS OWN MATERIAL.

AS FOR HIM RAILING ON THE WE ARE WINNING BULLSHIT-- I REMEMBER JON STEWART SAYING THEY JUST NEEDED A BACKDROP OF A MILITARY CEMETARY.

Fran said...

I'M MAKING THAT SARCASTIC REMARK BUT SERIOUSLY OF ALL TEH DEATH & DESTRUCTION IN IRAQ--STILL GOING ON TO THIS DAY... SUFFERING & HELL-- WINNING IS NOT THE WORD-- NOT TO MENTION OUR SOLDIERS & THE CARE THEY NEED AND THE HELLISH COST...... I MEAN REALLY

THERE WAS NOTHING TO WIN AND TO THIS DAY WE ARE STILL LOSING.

Fran said...

E TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION-- I WAS CHANNEL SURFING- SO IT WAS EITHER CBS,NBC, PBS DID NOT DO THE VIEWER VOTER THING.

ANYWAY THANKS FOR HOSTING.
IT WAS FUN.

THE DEBATE THAT ALMOST WASN'T

enigma4ever said...

thanks Fran....Loved having you as always...and yea...I too hate when he starts that We are Winning- Jaws of Defeat Victory crap....omg...how could anyone ever ever say that about Iraq....

Chris - I hear you ....it bothers me too..

To ALL that came...Kelly, Fran, Alien, Cart, Bradda, Newsguy, ( teacher ;-),troy, You all rock...thank you

;-)

Troy - a.k.a. Whiteline said...

Enigma, wish Blogger wouldn't have been a booger tonight... just now got logged back in... auuugghhh! Looks like you had a great turn out!

Thanks for hosting

Anok said...

What an awesome debate!!! Yeah, my money is on Obama ;)

enigma4ever said...

troy:::sorry about Blogger..but good to see you...
it was a helluva debate..

Anok::
hey- it was a good debate- I just rewatched it on cspan..yeah- Obama did a great job...and NOW thursday the Palin Meltdown...can't wait....good to see you...Hang in there...

Anok said...

O dear me, I CANNOT wait for the VP debates. Muwahahahahahahaa.

I do think Obama did well tonight - I think he started off a bit shaky, but ended on a high note. He kept the high road, didn't take the bait and get side tracked (well, not too much, anyway) and answered each question fully and with details.

He even said things that made my husband sit up and take notice. That's BIG.

Mauigirl said...

Sorry I missed liveblogging with you tonight - we were watching the debate with some friends. I think Obama did well. I was surprised that McCain was as together as he seemed, given the crazy stuff he's been doing lately. I think some of the stuff he was doing will backfire (that condescending "You don't understand" bit). We shall see. Glad Time gave Obama a better review than McCain!

enigma4ever said...

Maui::
good to see you..there were many Debate parties...good for you....really interesting debate...McCain did say somethings that were amazing- like NO spending except on Military and Vets...and Pakistan FAILED state???

anyways....thursday the Palin Debacle- mark your calendar ;-)

Distributorcap said...

enigma --- please let me know if you are gonna live blog the veep or another -- i would like to participate (couldnt last nite)

you done good

enigma4ever said...

DCAP:::
FOR SURE I WILL BE LIVEBLOGGING THE VP ONE...YOU BETCHA...

Afterall " I can see Russia from my porch"