Thursday, September 11, 2008

Remembering and Honoring 911....

People went to work...and never came home...really good people like you and me.....everyday people...and there are people still missing them....every day and every night...it's not about "liberty"....it's about The Loss.....
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Sometimes music helps....soothes Jewel "My hands"...helps us remember what matters...." .....beautiful song about grief....and coping... I always think of George Bush and the August 6th Memo that he lied about.....and hid from us...We Need Truth More than Lies..always....

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And the Sky will never be the same....we will never forget...

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Peace....and prayers.....namaste.
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{Original Sept 11th Poem written eve of Sept11,2001 posted on this blog Sept11,2007}

43 comments:

Mariamariacuchita said...

Wonderful sentiment...thanks, enigma.
namaste.

enigma4ever said...

thanks maria...namaste

an average patriot said...

Good one enigma
9/11 Anniversary and I think of the millions of Bush's victims, Admiral Mullins admits were screwed, and my youngest went off to war today, that's three! Oh man!

HelenWheels said...

Just so sad. I was recalling my own reaction, watching everything live on TV... so surreal, terrifying and then sad. I was glued to my TV for days, wishing I could do something and hoping more people were found.

Thanks for this memorial.

Christopher said...

The unanswered question for me is, why was the former Director of the CIA, George Tenet, unable to reach President George W. Bush with the details contained in the August 6th, 2001 PBD, warning that Islamic terrorists planned to use commercial airliners as bombs and strike U.S. targets?

The "Crawford Wall" was in place and no one -- not even the Director of the CIA, could get through to speak to Bush and warn him of the intelligence.

What was Bush doing that was more important than speaking to the Director of the CIA? Or, did Bush already know what was about to unfold and he had no intention of stopping it?

enigma4ever said...

According to the 911 Hearings and Book, Bush was on Vacation ( cough) at the Western White House ( gag)....
and the 8.6.01 Memo/PDB was gone over with Harriet Meiers, and then he did speak with Condasleeza Rice via Video Conference...THE memo was actually a followup to a VIDEO Warning that was sent by Bin Laden in July that we have never ever seen...and was never made public

in the 911 Book- there is an interesting part where Plane ONE hits the Towers- and Rummy 's response"Let's See What Happens NEXT"....this has haunted me and of course raises questions- WHY didn't he call NORAD ? and did he know what was about to happen NEXT ( plane 2)......

There are too many questions ....and not enough Answers or Honest Answers....

HelenWheels said...

Hey have you guys seen this?

Zero

It was made by some Italians, my friend says it's really good (all about 911) I have not had a chance to watch anything but the 1st 5 mins. It is split up on YouTube into 10 parts.

Too many damn questions. The thing that gave me the biggest chills was in the movie zeitgeist where they showed the sheared off steel column... from the basement.

And flight 93 that left NO debris... first time in history a plane crash did that, from what I've read.

enigma4ever said...

No Debris at that Pentagon either...of a PLANE...no wing parts...no jet fuel etc...and the trees and grass were all intact at the site...

I will watch- thanks...

too many questions...

Bradda said...

But Helen, and Enigma. Our government would NEVER let something like 911 happen to it's own people. Just look at how caring they were when Katrina drowned N.O.! And all the great policies that were enacted since 911, all to help us, the little guys. I agree with Brittney Spears when she said we should, "just trust our president...". GAG...such a sad day...

enigma4ever said...

oh it so sucks when one has to be saracastic and cynical and jaded ....because we have a Broken Government...broken by Career Criminals...

I betcha that Britty is a Big Palin Supporter- doncha think ????

Christopher said...

About the Pentagon, if you've been, you know it is an enormous complex with tens of thousands of employees. Even a dedicated subway stop with blocks of outdoor parking and people everywhere, walking to work, through parking lots, and so forth.

Yet, no reported seeing or hearing a Boeing 767 flying at rooftop level at more than 500MPH. No one heard or saw this anomaly. This out of the ordinary site of an wide-body jet screaming along, just feet above the ground.

Very odd.

HelenWheels said...

Yes, Christopher that just is too much for me to even beging to believe. I think it was a missile. Not sure from where... AND what my friend who saw the movie I linked above said, I'm not sure WHERE in the movie but she says they show the 2 second frame of something hitting the building but you never see a plane at all.

Bradda said...

Helen, Rumsfeld himself said it was a missle that hit the Pentagon. From everything that the flight school instructors said about those terrorist pilots and how bad they were, the Pentagon attack would have taken a master military pilot to pull off. Plus, as I always say in discussions on the Pentagon attack...why did the FBI sieze every single video from the surronding area within minutes of the attack? If they have video of the "plane" hitting the Pentagon then fucking show it!!! That grainy ass video they gave us was crap, you couldn't see shit. Wouldn't the goernment want to shut up the conspiracy theories by releasing video of the event? Or are they still "working" on it? And I don't by the, "we don't want to open up old wounds" line. They show the towers almost daily!

Christopher said...

It's just very odd. We've all grown up around aviation. We know what the sound of jet airplanes make and we know what jet airplanes look like. Some of us enjoy watching planes take off and land. People are sophisticated and if a 767 were flying along at treetop level, with engines screaming at 500MPH, and heading toward a building with morning rush hour activity underway, isn't it reasonable that
someone, would come forward to say they saw it?

Yet, crickets.

About the parking lot film, the frames show something and it is silver but it looks long and thin -- not at all like a Boeing 767 widebody passenger jet. It looks like, to me, it looks like a missile.

HelenWheels said...

Argh my comment got eaten up because I was posting the same time as Christopher! You win, Christopher! And your comment's better anyway :)

I would think also that it must be pretty goddamn easy to prove that if a 727 was cruising along that LOW on the ground, wouldn't there be massive damage in addition to many witnesses???

It's painfully obvious the official explanation is bullshit. I had forgotten about Rummie's comment. Sheesh.

Bradda said...

Christopher, the long white thing in the video does resemble a Tomahawk missle more than a plane but they wouldn't release footage of that, even if it was really grainy. I saw a show where they computer generated the turns that the pilot would have had to make to get to ground level from cruising and to get it at just the point where the Pentagon was in striking distance. They followed the FAA's tracking and had many military pilots analyze the contents. More than half of the pilots claimed that the plane probably couldn't handle the G's the turns would have created let alone a pilot with very little small plane experience. Alas, we'll never really know what done, it's just that the "official" account of that fateful day will never be believed by me!

Bradda said...

Helen, they claim that it knocked down some light posts! HAH, ya think??

HelenWheels said...

And obviously IF it WAS a missile, it would have HAD to be one of ours, no? I don't think our security is so lax as to allow armed foreign planes near the Pentagon?? Or even IN the country?

Bradda said...

Helen, I thought the Pentagon was one of the most protected and secure buildings in our nation?? Doesn't it have it's OWN missle defense system? Weird it didn't seem to work that day huh?

HelenWheels said...

"Knocked down a few light poles" Incredible. A car could do that. A plane would be much more devastating. GAWD!

HelenWheels said...

Bradda another incredibly good point. They do have a defense system in place there, right? Why didn't they defend themselves?

Damn. It's been too long since I talked about this stuff. SO much to know and remember and NOT BELIEVE.

enigma4ever said...

Pentagon does not have a missle defense system, but the missle ( cough plane) knew to hit the side of the building that was undergoing construction ....amazing....it knew to target the area with least amount of people....people who there there said that it did not smell of jet fuel, but explosives...and there are many photos of the intact greens, grass and even trees out front....

The Walls are almost or thought to be un-pentrenable ( spelling?)....they are over 3 feet thick- per ring...
( my great grandfather was a contractor that worked on the site...when Leslie Groves had it built- it is built like a Bomb Shelter)....

Torrance Stephens - All-Mi-T said...

i was teaching class at emory university when they told us to stop and that it was said a plane was heading toward the CDC. I was on faculty in school of public health - next to cdc

enigma4ever said...

wow...that had to be rather un-nerving...scary eh?

HelenWheels said...

Did anyone see it or hear it? The plane they warned of?

Christopher said...

And since we're going there, I always thought it more than a little curious that after the first plane flew into the WTC, why was NORAD given the order to stand down?

Yeah, 9/11, the more time passes, the more questions are raised and go unanswered.

Hey, let's ask McCandy? I bet she has an answer for everything!

HelenWheels said...

Oh, MY, Christopher... she certainly did in her abysmal Gibson interview! did you see yet? OMG... it's a travesty but I'm sure it won't matter.

Christopher said...

HelenWheels,

McCandy said war with Russia is a possibility.

Yep, in her own words and the Old Coot Gibson didn't raise an eyebrow and didn't challenge her.

HelenWheels said...

Ohhhhh but that's not all. Read this closely:

GIBSON: What insight into Russian actions, particularly in the last couple of weeks, does the proximity of the state give you?

PALIN: They're our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska.

NOOOOOO!! What a moron. Gibson also asked her what she thought of the Bush Doctrine and she thought it meant his point of view, not an actual doctrine.

Un-fucking-believable that the GOP would put this batshit insane and ignorant woman in position to run this country. They are all traitors.

enigma4ever said...

so she is not just fucking batshit- she is also stupid- like really unbeliveably stupid...

HelenWheels said...

That's RIIIIIIGHT!

Un-fucking-believably stupid. A first year poli-sci student could dance around her intellectually.

enigma4ever said...

and so could most 10 year olds!!!...

Obama on the forum next - you watching ?

HelenWheels said...

I suspect she's smart in the same way the shrub is: Intellectually completely uncurious, and sneaky/cunning but nothing much upstairs.

HelenWheels said...

I am. He just got a MUCH better welcome from the audience than McLame did.

HelenWheels said...

Also: McLame used tonight's interview opportunity to whore himself out to the religious fright. He ACTUALLY said that he thinks faith-based organizations and other volunteer organizations can be relied on instead of using the federal gov't. WTF!! So weird! He stuck "faith-based organizations" into every single answer that he could.

MandT said...

"People went to work...and never came home---" Just that line alone floods the heart with grief. Peace MandT

enigma4ever said...

Thanks Mandt..so sorry...

Helen:::
so I think he did a good job...and the welcome was more heartfelt...( he did go to Columbia so I think maybe they are proud of him...)

I think he did well...

McCoot just comes off as an old man....and his creepy laugh is not endearing..

HelenWheels said...

Yeah McLAME tried to get out of direct questions was going for the comic relief... as expected.

I think Obama did a splendid job, although like me, he can't wait 'til folks finish asking him questions before he starts answering :)

Christopher said...

Obama will appear on SNL this weekend.

The official announcement hasn't been made yet but the host is Michael Phelps.

Should be great!

enigma4ever said...

Awesome...and Darrell Hammond is McCoot...should be good..now if Tina Fey would show up...

HelenWheels said...

OH please please... Tina Fey as Caribou Barbie...

Border Explorer said...

Enigma, I hope you'll forgive me jumping on the end of this comments page. I just got here and have listened to the Jewel song. It is so moving in this context (9/11) and in the context of our national disgrace--the current presidential campaign. How it can even be a contest in anyone's mind is a mystery to me. And a disgrace to our nation.

Well, knowing a bit of the story you yourself lived through...the beating you took...makes the lyric "We are never broken" so beautiful. Your hope, determination, stamina...all inspire me. I'll be listening to this song more often in the coming weeks. Thanks for posting it and for all you do here on Watergate Summer.

enigma4ever said...

Border::
oh thank you dear lady...thank you for hearing the song the way I hear it....an that it is an ode to being Stronger, to healing....to taking care of each other...

we as a nation have lost our way...but I know that they are millions like me, like you, that still care about Our Humanity and still value What we once were before the False Kings Arrived ...

You write with Compassion and Conviction...and sincerity...it is a gift....and meeting you in Blogatopia has been a gift....

namaste.